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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:40 am 
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Here are the two Dallas Morning News excerpts for races run by Pan Zareta at the Texas State Fair in October of 1912. Her owner J. F. Newman took his string of horses there after returning from the mountain west circuit. There are two excerpts per race. The race dates were Oct 12th and October 16th. Newman elected not to run PZ in the Texas State Futurity on the 17th because he had two other adequate runners to perform in it (Vested Rights and Pat Gannon). Evidently, he chose to run her in open age events where her superiority would stand a better chance. She finished second in the earlier one, and won the other. (Vested Rights won the Futurity.)

Article for 10-12:

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu30 ... ZFirst.jpg

Summary for 10-12:

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu30 ... FirstB.jpg

Article for 10-16:

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu30 ... Second.jpg

Newman's entrants for Texas State Futurity. Only Vested Rights, Pat Gannon, and another colt (Orbest?) ended up running:

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu30 ... econdB.jpg

This was the same venue where PZ ran the next year in the fall also. DRF published charts for 1913, but not 1912, thus explaining the lack of inclusion in her formal PPs; even though both races carry the identical importance and validity. Minco Jimmie was a high-end sprinter in that circuit, and another horse named Furlong she faced both years.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:13 pm 
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What's surprising is that even one Texas race is part of her formal PPs. Gambling on horse races and any/everything else was officially banned by the state legislature in 1909. From then until a brief Depression-era flirtation with legalized pari-mutuel betting there was precious little JC-recognized racing here.

Orbest and Furlong were Texas-breds. As you may know, Minco Jimmie was an OK-bred full brother to Uncle Jimmie Gray. All three have been added to the db.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:35 am 
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I can understand the DRF's viewpoint of not covering races where sales of forms might not have been promising. :D

But when it comes to determining acceptability of races by stats compilers in 2014, I would err on the side of inclusion for races run in the late 1800s and early 1900s; a time of transition having competing PPs providers and warring jockey clubs. Especially for races like these where the competition was legitimate, the purses/stakes are comparable, the races themselves were legally constituted, and enough media information exists to record them properly. I really see no compelling reason to deny it to her, especially for ones when the sport was scrambling for its very existence.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:49 pm 
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I agree re. inclusion but suspect we still may not have a full record for PZ during the time she was owned by Jim Newman/his estate. What was her share of the purse for the races as Dallas (State Fair) 1912?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:33 am 
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1. Here's a breakdown of a $200 purse at the Texas State Fair the next year:

http://athena.uky.edu/cgi/t/text/pagevi ... assterms=1

2. As someone who scours for uncompiled races by notable American horses, it is my opinion that these were probably the only extra ones that PZ ran; for a host of reasons. Expectations for her ran pretty high, even before the calendar turned to Jan 1 1912. The DRF had her in its lists of young ones to watch. Her early spacing of races and travel did not allow too many opportunities to detour into less structured, beneath-the-radar settings. In addition, I've used every intentional misspelling of her name possible in news archive (free and pay) search engines, went to every obscure site that I know of, and could not develop any more hits. Besides, the number of extra races for all the prominent horses that I have developed is not a large one. In the 20th Century in particular, it is pretty meager. One Tulsa event for Useeit. The fair races for Go Between. These. And maybe a few more that escape me off the top of my head, but maybe not.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:18 pm 
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Just so that the misspelling of "Zarita" in the linked articles is not troublesome to anyone ..... :)

http://www.cardcow.com/385351/pan-zarit ... se-racing/


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