Anyone have any opinions on these races.
My 2 picks are Aviate in the Oaks and Midas Touch in the Derby.
Also I'm hugely disappointed that St Nicholas Abbey didn't make it to the race.
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Hi Carlo,
I totally agree with you about St Nicholas Abbey. The Derby is more open than ever. My husband does like the way Jan Vermeer moves (he is called after Dutch painter Johannes Vermeer however).
Parlo: how great the ex German Filly won this race Epsom by Platini!! (she looks like Mellanie a lot)
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra ... 25353/top/
be back soon, have to watch BBC now!!
I totally agree with you about St Nicholas Abbey. The Derby is more open than ever. My husband does like the way Jan Vermeer moves (he is called after Dutch painter Johannes Vermeer however).
Parlo: how great the ex German Filly won this race Epsom by Platini!! (she looks like Mellanie a lot)
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra ... 25353/top/
be back soon, have to watch BBC now!!
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What a race in the end, thought this was going to be a so so Derby after all the winter hype over St Nicolas Abbey.
What would have we seen if Workforce had made the 2000 Guineas?
Another Sea the Stars? Better maybe?
A new track record at Epsom running the Derby in nearly 2 secs quicker than Galileo.
We are really starting to see a shift in Pedigree of the top horses now in Europe the Mr Prospector blood is starting to come into play over all the Northern Dancer pedigrees.
What would have we seen if Workforce had made the 2000 Guineas?
Another Sea the Stars? Better maybe?
A new track record at Epsom running the Derby in nearly 2 secs quicker than Galileo.
We are really starting to see a shift in Pedigree of the top horses now in Europe the Mr Prospector blood is starting to come into play over all the Northern Dancer pedigrees.
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Fantastic performance by Workforce.
I thought At First Sight may have gotten to far away from the field at one point but it was a stunning performance to catch him and then beat him by 7 lengths.
To follow on Dublino about a possible shift in sire lines in europe I think this was the first time a Mr Prospector line stallion has sired the winner of the Derby
I thought At First Sight may have gotten to far away from the field at one point but it was a stunning performance to catch him and then beat him by 7 lengths.
To follow on Dublino about a possible shift in sire lines in europe I think this was the first time a Mr Prospector line stallion has sired the winner of the Derby
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And Makfi, by Dubawi winning the 2000 Guineas classic double.
I doubt the Mr Prospector line will get the St Ledger
The European pedigrees are full of stamina and Northern Dancer.
Speed injection is what is needed.
You can see this with the Aga Khan also, he is using Pivotal, Oasis Dream and Invincible spirit to inject speed into his mares.
Can't understand why Coolmore haven't gone down the road of getting some Mr Prospector line stallions, heck they even let ARCHIPENKO
go he has such a stallions pedigree, possibly too much Northern Dancer in there already.....
I doubt the Mr Prospector line will get the St Ledger
The European pedigrees are full of stamina and Northern Dancer.
Speed injection is what is needed.
You can see this with the Aga Khan also, he is using Pivotal, Oasis Dream and Invincible spirit to inject speed into his mares.
Can't understand why Coolmore haven't gone down the road of getting some Mr Prospector line stallions, heck they even let ARCHIPENKO
go he has such a stallions pedigree, possibly too much Northern Dancer in there already.....
dublino wrote:... I doubt the Mr Prospector line will get the St Leger ....
You across the pond overestimate the Doncaster St. Leger in modern European racing. The Triple Crown bears no value any more.
For a top-class 3yo there are more important races to gain more fame and glory (Irish Derby, King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stk., Arc).
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Carlo Algatrensig wrote:dublino wrote:I doubt the Mr Prospector line will get the St Ledger
There has already been one.
Rule of Law won the 2004 St Leger and he's by Kingmambo
So certainly not a complete impossibility that a Mr P line horse will win it this year.
I stand corrected.
And Lope De Vegas win at Chantilly in the French Derby today, check out his close inbreeding to Machevellian as son of Mr P.
And here is the Chantilly-race - just another German-bred winner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDBRC-dXI9k
... inspite of 12 out of 16 male lines to Phalaris.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDBRC-dXI9k
... inspite of 12 out of 16 male lines to Phalaris.
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