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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:32 am 
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Does anyone know what this is about please?

TADCASTER (GB) ch. H, 1877 {2-h} DP = 0-0-0-0-0 (0) DI = Inf CD = Inf

Owner: Hugh Lupus Grosvenor, 1st Duke of Westminster
Breeder: Eaton Hall (Duke of Westminster)

The subject of an unresolved switching controversy with his stablemate BEND OR. DNA research in 2011, suggested that he was the real Bend Or.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:40 pm 
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Elles wrote:
Does anyone know what this is about please?

TADCASTER (GB) ch. H, 1877 {2-h} DP = 0-0-0-0-0 (0) DI = Inf CD = Inf

Owner: Hugh Lupus Grosvenor, 1st Duke of Westminster
Breeder: Eaton Hall (Duke of Westminster)

The subject of an unresolved switching controversy with his stablemate BEND OR. DNA research in 2011, suggested that he was the real Bend Or.


Mitochondrial DNA testing of the remains of Bend Or, attributed by stud book record to the produce of Rouge Rose (family 1-k), did not yield the results expected for family 1. Instead, it yielded the results expected for family 2 which includes Tadcaster's recorded dam Clemence. This is strong support for a groom's claim, discredited at the time (1880), that Bend Or and Tadcaster's identities were confused when they were sent to be trained.

See: Truth in the bones: resolving the identity of the founding elite thoroughbred racehorses


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:40 am 
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Thank you very much for your help Pan Zareta.


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Does this mean my gelding's Bend Or spots should be renamed Tadcaster spots?
How bizarre.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:24 am 
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Cree wrote:
Does this mean my gelding's Bend Or spots should be renamed Tadcaster spots?
How bizarre.


Supposedly, they both had the spots and personally I think the name should stay with the horse that won the Epsom Derby and went on to become an influential sire, even if he was the son of Clemence rather than Rouge Rose. I refuse to start calling them "Tadcaster spots". :D


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