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O.K. stupid question of the century ...

Postby mikec » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:18 pm

I was just wondering, so please be kind, if there has ever been a " successfull " situation where a quality race horse serviced mares during a break from racing and then returned to racing. I honestly don't know how that would turn out? ! ? :?
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Postby madelyn » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:50 pm

I believe there might have been a few - George Washington? - that went to stud and were found to be infertile so they returned to racing..
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Postby Diane » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:00 pm

Square Eddie. If you google I'm sure you can find the whole story. I'm too tired to try to remember tonight. He's in training now and bred mares this past winter. I haven't read anything about if they'll breed outside mares to him this coming season. I think it's maybe Wilf that has a friend that knows the horse and if I recall correctly the horse has a very nice manner??? Something like that......

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Postby mikec » Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:06 am

Okay ; so clearly it's not been done often ?
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Postby madelyn » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:13 am

If you are asking if you could let a racehorse down in, say, December, use him to jump a few mares in Jan-Feb, return to race training in March, etc., I think that is quite possible. Whether that is done or not is not something that is likely to be reported on, since the stallion wouldn't be considered commercial at that level.
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Postby casallc » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:08 am

Red Jones (1951 Lucky Eleven - Mackenty Jean) World Record Holder for 2 furlongs. Had a daughter that ran second in the same race that he set the record. It was not uncommon back when horses were real horses.

Red Jones was not bred to many TB mares (obviously) but was a good QH sire.

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Postby Tappiano » Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:53 am

I don't think it happens very often simply because once a stallion is introduced to mares he won't focus on racing. This can actually happen even before a stallion ever breeds a mare and then, unfortunately, as was the case with Lammtarra, they are retired.

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Postby mikec » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:52 am

Interesting stuff. Thank you guys !
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Postby Crystal » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:20 am

I think it was Artax that covered a few but then went back to the track. He wasn't as nearly as dedicated to racing once he got back to the track, so at the time he went back to the shed...

It's just what I recall hearing.

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Postby Lucy » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:04 pm

Didn't Bertrando race the second half of the year after standing his first season?

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Postby Diane » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:38 pm

Lucy you're right. He raced Nov 93 took a break until July 94. His first crop looks like ~ 30 foals born in 1995.

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Postby xfactor fan » Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:29 pm

Didn't Seabiscuit also sire a few foals while recovering from a leg injury? Then came back to win the "Big Cap" and was retired for good?

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Postby Bohemia » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:48 am

xfactor fan wrote:Didn't Seabiscuit also sire a few foals while recovering from a leg injury? Then came back to win the "Big Cap" and was retired for good?


You are correct!

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Postby pfrsue » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:10 am

Here's one...

...Eagle Time is 14 years old. The Oct. 1 race was his last, as Jordan said the horse will be sent to stud this week. But he won’t be a novice in the breeding shed. Indeed, Eagle Time has been at stud since 2004 and a two-career man since 2009...


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... ledown-win

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Postby zinn21 » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:07 pm

Bertrando indeed did it and won the Goodwood at Oaktree in the fall of 94.
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