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Postby Equipoise28 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:22 am

Jorge wrote:Apropos this topic, is there any recent 21st century horse carrying
a relatively close dose from the great AMBIORIX?

Seems like he is now a curious asterisk of the past, uh?


This horse was born in 1999, but raced in the '00s. Ambiorix apparently was a sire into the '70's so there are a few close descendents still around. Interesting topic, Jorge!

http://www.pedigreequery.com/papua4

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Postby zipperfoot » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:17 am

French Seventyfive--the last known stallion w/Ambiorix sireline in North America--died last year. Ambiorix was 5 generations back, so not close. F75 sired very few foals (<45?) and unfortunately all the colts were gelded.

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Postby Jorge » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:49 pm

Equipoise28 wrote:
Jorge wrote:Apropos this topic, is there any recent 21st century horse carrying
a relatively close dose from the great AMBIORIX?

Seems like he is now a curious asterisk of the past, uh?


This horse was born in 1999, but raced in the '00s. Ambiorix apparently was a sire into the '70's so there are a few close descendents still around. Interesting topic, Jorge!

http://www.pedigreequery.com/papua4


Thank you very much for focusing on this interesting
case. It's sadly curious that his progeny is so limited.
One has to wonder why. Certainly this a relatively
young productive sire. Why the shortage?
Thanks again.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/papua4

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Postby Jorge » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:54 pm

zipperfoot wrote:French Seventyfive--the last known stallion w/Ambiorix sireline in North America--died last year. Ambiorix was 5 generations back, so not close. F75 sired very few foals (<45?) and unfortunately all the colts were gelded.


Is this colt a viable option to save Ambiorix tail male lineage?
http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/faraway+comet

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Postby Jorge » Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:01 pm

Note that Santa Anita Derby winner GOLDENCENTS is carrying
a very interesting dose from a highly regarded Italian Triple Crown winner, from yesteryears, namely, NICCOLO DELLARCA (Bay h 1938)
http://www.pedigreequery.com/niccolo+dellarca

This stallion lost pertinence many many years ago but here he is again.
Some sort of resurrection over here. Nice to see his name again.

Browse Goldencents female lineage.

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Postby Jorge » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:01 am

This filly is carrying a very unusual strain coming from the 1936 Epsom Derby winner Mahmoud. Of course, this stallion is not a rare source but this curious dose of him is.

LOVELY INDY (grey filly 2010)
http://www.pedigreequery.com/lovely+indy

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Postby zipperfoot » Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:29 am

Jorge wrote:
zipperfoot wrote:French Seventyfive--the last known stallion w/Ambiorix sireline in North America--died last year. Ambiorix was 5 generations back, so not close. F75 sired very few foals (<45?) and unfortunately all the colts were gelded.


Is this colt a viable option to save Ambiorix tail male lineage?
http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/faraway+comet


Unfortunately no. There's no record of Faraway Comet on Equineline. JC does not show Royal Bable as having a foal in 2009.

Maybe someone will import an Ambiorix sireline stallion from Europe...

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Postby charlie » Mon May 06, 2013 8:13 pm

Exceed and Excel, a champion Australian sprinter and sire of 70 Stake winners, including six group 1, has for his second dam the good stakes filly Gladiolus, who was by Watch Your Step by Citation, and out of Back Britches by Carry Back.

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Postby Jorge » Sun May 12, 2013 9:35 pm

Not very often you come across a dose coming from long forgotten
COCO LA TERREUR http://www.pedigreequery.com/coco+la+terreur
and his dream team pedigree, but he is right there at the pedigree of STYLE VENDOME (http://www.pedigreequery.com/style+vendome) who just won the French Two Thousands Guineas.

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Postby Jorge » Sun May 26, 2013 7:08 am

Gran Premio 25 de Mayo participant
SUNNY REX http://www.pedigreequery.com/sunny+rex

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Postby Jorge » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:19 pm

BACKTALK (Ch C 2007) http://www.pedigreequery.com/backtalk2

It is sort of strange, but it is rare to find the great Affirmed as a broodmare sire these days, even more unique, accompanied with the talented runner, Smarty Jones.

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Postby Jorge » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:21 pm

TRIUMPH BIO (grey H 2010) http://www.pedigreequery.com/triumph+bio

This sophomore is actully running in Japan and winning consistently.
Aside from being a son of Buckpasser's languishing branch of Silver Charm, TRIUMPH BIO's female lineage is a reunion of top class European standouts with old fashioned albeit talented achievers. Take a look.

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Postby Elusive City » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:26 am

how bout Olymp, Jorge.

The German sire who ran 12 times winning 11.

He was lightly raced due to the war. :-(

linebred in Group 1 winning Novellist

http://www.pedigreequery.com/novellist2

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Postby Heidilady » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:01 pm

Forgive me if this has been brought up but there are 9 pages. I just saw that Kettle Corn has Lil E. Tee for a broodmare sire. Pretty unusual to see Lil E. Tee in a pedigree.
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Postby geowarrior » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:23 pm

And Kettle Corn looked very nice winning the San Diego today, although I was rooting for Paynter.