What feed do you use for your broodmares and foals?

Veterinary, horse care, and training issues.

Moderators: Roguelet, hpkingjr, WaveMaster, madelyn

Blue feather
Allowance Winner
Posts: 318
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:17 am

What feed do you use for your broodmares and foals?

Postby Blue feather » Sat May 14, 2011 9:13 am

I am looking for the best quality feed for my Thoroughbred broodmares. With all the experience on this board, I would love some suggestions on brands used by some of you.

User avatar
TrueColours
Grade I Winner
Posts: 1635
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:07 am
Location: Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Postby TrueColours » Sat May 14, 2011 5:57 pm

Where are you located? What I would recommend might not be available at all in your area ... :)

For the record - I love the Buckeye products and have my mares and foals on Growth / Alfa Grow N Win and Trifecta if they need it
www.TrueColoursFarm.com

Breeders of unique coloured Thoroughbreds & Sport Horses - standing Guaranteed Gold - 16.1hh cremello TB stallion - CSHA and AQHA, APHA, ApHC listed

clh
Grade I Winner
Posts: 1586
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:05 pm
Location: Ohio

Postby clh » Mon May 16, 2011 5:09 pm

We ordered our feed from Southern States and used the Legends Mare and Foal 16%. My mares always were in good health and weight and had great coats (just ask me ;) )
"We are the people our parents warned us about" - Jimmy Buffett

"My occupational hazard is that my occupation is just not around" - Jimmy Buffett

griff
Leading Sire
Posts: 3519
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:18 pm
Location: Yorktown, VA

Postby griff » Tue May 17, 2011 6:17 am

I think 16% feed is too hot for any equine, brood or preformance.

horses evolved eating grass and schrubs not soybeans.

griff
"We has met the enemy and he is us" [Pogo]

Mood Swings
Grade II Winner
Posts: 1473
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:23 am
Location: Ontario, Canada

Postby Mood Swings » Tue May 17, 2011 10:19 am

Protein doesn't make a horse "hot". Horses that evolved from grass and shrubs were also not the high performance equines that we have today.
Many years ago no one had even heard of internet... but humans have evolved too, its not all bad.
"People come and go but horses leave hoofprints on your heart"

griff
Leading Sire
Posts: 3519
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:18 pm
Location: Yorktown, VA

Postby griff » Tue May 17, 2011 10:59 am

look again.. I did not say 16% feed made the horse hot; I said 16% feed was too hot for horses..

Actually I belive Sweet 16 has messed up many more horses than not enough grain and soybeans

And you are correct look how well humans have adapted to corn sugar.

griff
"We has met the enemy and he is us" [Pogo]

Laurierace
Grade II Winner
Posts: 1277
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:14 am

Postby Laurierace » Tue May 17, 2011 7:16 pm

It's not the 16 part that makes it sweet. It is the sugar that makes it sweet. I personally feed all my horses an appropriate amount of ration balancer for their activity level and add a low carb pellet as needed for extra calories. Free choice hay as well.

jagger
Grade III Winner
Posts: 1119
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:49 pm
Location: Peoria, Illinois

Feed

Postby jagger » Tue May 17, 2011 7:21 pm

Progressive Feed. The BEST available....IMHO

griff
Leading Sire
Posts: 3519
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:18 pm
Location: Yorktown, VA

Postby griff » Wed May 18, 2011 5:13 am

check out THE HORSE article # 15970 "Horse Protien Needs & Sources" dated March 11, 2010.

Article does say brood mares need more protein in last trimester but does not define "more'

Article recommends a protein level of 7% to 10% for maintenance and recommends an increase of 1% to 2% for preformance horses..

Lastly too much protein causes a young horse to grow too fast which results in joint problems. I'm pretty sure I did this to the 1st TB filly I raised and raced.

Again, people have not evolved to handle fast food and horses have not evolved to handle soybeans.

griff
"We has met the enemy and he is us" [Pogo]

User avatar
madelyn
Moderator
Posts: 10049
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:53 pm
Location: Louisville, KY

Postby madelyn » Wed May 18, 2011 5:57 am

I've been getting Mare and Foal 12% from Southern States. I also give a flake or two of pure alfalfa daily for the calcium.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....

Mood Swings
Grade II Winner
Posts: 1473
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:23 am
Location: Ontario, Canada

Postby Mood Swings » Fri May 20, 2011 10:02 am

griff wrote:I think 16% feed is too hot for any equine, brood or preformance. griff


The 16% on a feed tag refers to protein, thus my comment that protein doesn't make a horse "hot". Instead as Laurierace said its the sugars, such as highly digestible carbohydrates.

There is SO much conflicting information with regards to proper equine nutrition. A feed rep (who will be biased depending on the company they work for) will argue with a vets reasoning and visa versa. Feeding is a combination of common sense, what has worked in the past and taking bits of everyone elses advice IMO.
"People come and go but horses leave hoofprints on your heart"

griff
Leading Sire
Posts: 3519
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:18 pm
Location: Yorktown, VA

Postby griff » Fri May 20, 2011 5:43 pm

allow me to try it another way:

I did not say that 16% [protien] feed made a horse hot; I said that 16% [protein] feed was too hot for a horse..

comprende??

griff
"We has met the enemy and he is us" [Pogo]

Mood Swings
Grade II Winner
Posts: 1473
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:23 am
Location: Ontario, Canada

Postby Mood Swings » Sat May 21, 2011 8:28 am

Hello dearest griff, what are you implying by too hot (16% protein)to feed exactly? Please enlighten me to your thinking.

Muchas gracias!
"People come and go but horses leave hoofprints on your heart"

griff
Leading Sire
Posts: 3519
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:18 pm
Location: Yorktown, VA

Postby griff » Sun May 22, 2011 7:45 am

too rich; more protein that a horse's digestive system can handle or is good for a horses digestive system, etc..

Why is it I get this feeling you knoe exactly what I mean by too hot??

griff
"We has met the enemy and he is us" [Pogo]

User avatar
madelyn
Moderator
Posts: 10049
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:53 pm
Location: Louisville, KY

Postby madelyn » Mon May 23, 2011 5:22 am

Here is a table that has the protein requirements for horses:
http://www.admani.com/AllianceEquine/im ... eDiets.gif

What griff is saying, quite correctly, is that 16% protein is too much. Excess protein will have to be excreted. This is handled by the kidneys and the horse receiving too much protein will urinate excessively. I have also noticed a strong smell in the urine when a horse is getting too much protein. The excessive urination will also deplete minerals and the horse will drink a LOT of water. And require a mineral supplement. It's really something to avoid.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....