louis finochio wrote:BJ: I have never seen any winner of those TC races or TC or HOY with that many crosses of a single sire line.
When any stallion with 10-13 crosses of a single sire line is bred to mares that have 8-12 crosses of the same sire line the result will be a high % of unsoundness in the offspring.
I was talking with Eddie Delahousse and ED told me that many TB breeders in Ky. said that we our in too deep into this inbreeding with Phalaris and they dont have a clue how to get back to the pre-Phalaris days where TB were sounder and lasted longer.
That is a scary statement coming from those breeders in Ky.
Louis,
I'm sure you know that Briarctic was 4 x 6 to Phalaris. He made 63 starts.
Cold Comfort was also 4x6 to Phalaris. She made 57 starts and made over $300K.
And then there was the horse that made 83 starts who was 5x5x5 to Phalaris.
A SUS ORDENES (USA) M, 1963 DP = 16-6-13-1-0 (36) DI = 3.80 CD = 1.03 - GSV = 74.27 - 83 Starts, 16 Wins, 11 Places, 11 Shows Career At 4: 3rd Ohio Matron H.
The above was found in just a couple of minutes, with thousands more horses to look at. So...don't you think that REAL "close inbreeding" (not inbreeding 8 or 9 generations back) would be a greater threat to soundness, if your Phalaris theory was solid?
I truly mean no disrespect, but I honestly think it is more the COMBINATION of multiple inbreedings,
with today's racing environment that is the recipe for the breakdowns, NOT just the inbreeding. So, if we modified some of the training tactics and the racing schedules, I bet we'd see a lot fewer breakdowns with MORE INBREEDING, than we would see fewer breakdowns with less inbreeding and no modification of the racing environment.
I'd make that bet any day of the week!