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Postby ElPrado » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:22 am

If he fixed the problem he wouldn't be able to duck the question. He only can't open the link if it disagrees with him. If it agreed with him he would miraculously be able to read it. :roll: I know this. You know this. He knows this. He simply thinks we are too stupid to know this. :roll:

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Postby BenB » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:37 am

Each time, when the ground becomes to hot under his feet, he jumps in the old way.

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Postby Bast » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:02 pm

BenB wrote:Each time, when the ground becomes to hot under his feet, he jumps in the old way.


Yes, more obituaries, except now, every possible affliction that can befall a horse is now caused by Phalaris...
May 2013: Plan ahead now for the Phalaris/Teddy Centennial!
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Postby louis finochio » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:10 pm

I dont have a knock against Ph. Ph. is now 95 % of our breed. Those NP sire line stallions & mares have taken a big hit. The BH stallion register used to publish those NP sire lines. They have abandon those NP sire lines, as they are a vanishing breed.
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Postby Shammy Davis » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:43 pm

Louis wrote:
I dont have a knock against Ph. . .
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Give us a break. PH is the basis for this "nonsense" thread. BenB is exactly right. You have been inept at speaking to this subject. You have never once taken the time to inform yourself on the true issues that face the TB and you are incapable of even opening pertinent information and links as provided by other members.

You ask why members stick with this thread. Well, the truth be known that you have produced nothing of a factual nature to support your claims in the almost 800 pages that this thread has existed, so competent and honest members had to do it for you.

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Postby Bast » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:39 pm

louis finochio wrote:I dont have a knock against Ph. Ph. is now 95 % of our breed. Those NP sire line stallions & mares have taken a big hit. The BH stallion register used to publish those NP sire lines. They have abandon those NP sire lines, as they are a vanishing breed.


Only if you are looking at male line descent.

Maternal line descent continues to branch and diverge.

Louis, as early as the 1970s, Phalaris line horses were predominant in the annual Stallion Register. I know, I pulled my 1975 copy.
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Postby Bast » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:40 pm

Shammy Davis wrote:"Learning is not attained by chance, it must be sought for with ardor and attended to with diligence." Abigail Adams in a letter to John Adams May 1, 1780


Abigail was correct.
May 2013: Plan ahead now for the Phalaris/Teddy Centennial!

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Postby louis finochio » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:06 am

Yes, those Ph. stallions were alive & well in the 70s, but so were those NP stallions & mares. Thats the difference in the present. How can todays breeders breed sound tb when we lost those NP sire lines.
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Postby louis finochio » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:10 am

Ben: That father daughter mating, happened only once. Those type 1 FB matings happen 23--29 times. Thats why are tb are coming apart, & their conformation has become anemic & frail.
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Postby ElPrado » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:35 am

And the funniest part is you calling them anemic and frail. Baffert must be having hysterics every time he manages to escape you. :roll:

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Postby Bast » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:02 pm

louis finochio wrote:Yes, those Ph. stallions were alive & well in the 70s, but so were those NP stallions & mares. Thats the difference in the present. How can todays breeders breed sound tb when we lost those NP sire lines.


Apparently you have never actually reviewed one of these old publications to see the prevalence of Phalaris line horses in the 1970s. Like so much else, you never review actual data.

Once again, you assert that ALL non-Phalaris line individuals are sources of soundness. This is silly, absurd, nonsensical lunacy.
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Postby ElPrado » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:08 pm

You've never worked with real horses. Your research is based on pigeons. Pigeons have as much to do with horses as they do with horseshoe crabs. Well, on your side of the US, Dungeness crabs. :wink: Selling a groom a t shirt doesn't make you a pedigree expert. Neither does racing badly bred pigeons.

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Postby Shammy Davis » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:29 pm

Louis' research took flight many years ago. That is why none of makes any sense.

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Postby BenB » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:53 pm

Look, just prove anywhere an repeated i sire, daughter mating up to 23 times.

It is not to be found, so again QUIT