Inbreeding to Numbered Account in California Chrome’s Ped

[hyphen1969]

Hope could be interesting for you

http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/articles/inbreeding-to-number-account-or-california-chromes-pedigree-seen-from-a-different-perspective

[hpkingjr]

I always enjoy your posts. Thanks.

[Bill from WA]

http://dimarres.wix.com/modern-conduit-mares

[brogers]

There are 11 mares that are 3x3 to Numbered Account that have racing produce. Their combined produce record reads 29 foals of racing age for 2 stakes winners – California Chrome and Great Love, a Listed winner. If there were “magic beans” to be found in the mares that were 3x3 cross to Numbered Account, then producing a horse like California Chrome would be a repeatable event which it is clearly not as there is a long way in racing class between California Chrome and Great Love and there are 27 other horses who are not California Chrome.

Look elsewhere for the explanation of Chrome's greatness...

[kimberley mine]

Look elsewhere for the explanation of Chrome's greatness...

I'd say his sire is the 21st century Smokester--California stallion who is WAY outbreeding his own pedigree and race record.

[DDT]

Byron

I am not agreeing with nor disagreeing with an inbreeding to Numbered Account, however, TrueNicks generates many A ratings based on a similar strike rate. 2 for 29 is way above average for the breed and of course we should consider the environmental aspects of the other 27 horses involved.

DDT

[brogers]

TrueNicks generates many A ratings based on a similar strike rate.

TrueNicks doesn't just consider the strike rate of the cross, it considers all other opportunity before it creates a rating. So if you fairly wanted to compare apples-to-apples in terms of how TrueNicks is calculated you would need to know how each of the stallions of those 29 foals have done when bred to all other mares (not 3x3 Numbered Account).

[DDT]

Byron

I was not making any type of comparison as to how TrueNicks works, I only said that the ratio that generated your comments does not eliminate an A rating using TrueNicks, as usual, you can dish it out but cannot take it the other way which should be if it is good for TrueNicks it should be good for all aspects of stakes winning percentages.

DDT

[hpkingjr]

When I checked our data base (and I don't swear to the completeness or accuracy) there are about 340 horses inbred to Numbered Account 5x5 or closer. There are about 30 black type horses in the list. Not bad but certainly not extraordinary.

[DDT]

Rommy

I suppose that you do not charge for your consulting and are immune to collecting fees for your advice. Your one and only post to this forum is a swipe at Byron, real professional and not self-serving in the least. You could have simply said that just maybe California Chrome's dam, with her RF in tow could be a primary reason for his success as a runner. I personally am not a big fan of any nicking system, however, TrueNicks can be utilized as a starting point, if desired, free of charge, so what is your real beef all about, care to enlighten us? I, on the other hand, stated my beef with his statement as to the 2 out of 29 stakes winners.

DDT

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