Clearing The Air

[Strategic Maneuver]

Ageecee, you crack me up almost as much as Troy does.

[larrygene]

ageecee, you nailed it when you said there is a lot of love for you. There is, after 3 years, a lot of love for a lot of people. This forum is a place I can come to and visit with my friends that have the same passions and the same feelings I have for an animal and for the game of racing. In my eyes nothing takes the place of TB horseracing when you feel the rush of excitement of seeing your horse coming down the homestretch with a chance of winning a race. There is no greater high for me!!! To share this forum with others that have experienced that high is such a pleasure. Also, sharing the many lows. We consol each other, we cry with each other, we encourage each other. I can't find that love anywhere but here on this forum. I have tried the other forums but the warmth and fellowship is not there for me. I love this place!!!

I hope I can add to its betterment and receive from it the knowledge and wisdom of others. What a place this is that has access to people from all over this planet. Never before have we had this volume of knowlege sitting before us on a screen in one place. The knowlege of the world at your finger tips!!! Amazing!!! And yet here we are debating over the most trivial matters when all it takes is personal restraint and respect for other people and their opinions!!

We are better people than we are showing. Let's all get back to talking TB's.

Larrygene

[Tucumcari]

Larry, didn't you begin this entire thread and now you wanna end it???? What up???
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[larrygene]

Tuc, I did not start this thread. Rogue lifted my comment from another thread and started this one. I really don't know how to take that but if it has helped clear the air then great!!! Let's get to talking TB's

[Strategic Maneuver]

Amen Larry. Let's move on. The clock's ticking to the Belmont and I am so excited to see the race. It's going to be a doozy!!!

[geowarrior]

Well, just to make the air squeaky clean, I will attest to Tucumcari's new way of dealing with people. Early in my time on this forum she went after me a bit and since I wasn't used to forums I felt a bit hurt. But I've definitely noticed that she has made a real effort, not just some one week wonder but her whole way of treating people has changed over the long term through her choice to make that effort. The result for me is that before I was a bit scared of what she might say to me (I'm a wimp at heart) but these days I look forward enthusiastically to her posts because now she focuses on the expertise she has to share and the interesting questions she asks.

If we're going to feel the love for ageecee, then lets feel it for Tuc as well.

[Roguelet]

This thread should, if nothing else, show us that there are vast differences in personal opinions and tolerance levels as to what is and is not considered "offensive." Just because something is not considered offensive to you does not mean it is not offensive to others. That is the whole crux of what SO many of you are applying to one poster right now, yet some of you still don't want to acknowledge that it also applies to yourself. (And thank you for those who did acknowledge that.)

Any term that has even the smallest tinge of racism associated with it (which the term currently being discussed CLEARLY does for many people) and anything blatantly sexually explicit is highly more offensive than some foul language to me. And going back to the term being discussed... if you re-read the comments containing that term, it is CLEAR to see that at the time, it was meant in a very derogatory and insulting manner, which is yet another issue that many of you have taken offense with. Even if you replace that word with "cajun" in the quotes, those posts still read as attacking, belittling, rude, and dismissive of another person's opinon. So, the following comment made by a poster here would, in my opinion, be appropriate to use in reference to those quotes:

[WARHORSE28]

[Roguelet]

[WARHORSE28]

No, you and I were just typing at the same time. Sorry, it was an off-color joke.

[Roguelet]

[Sysonby]

Oddly enough, with a few obvious exceptions, this is probably the "nicest" horse forum but that doesn't make it a polite place. There's something about horses that brings out the best and worst of people and then you have the whole layer of stuff racing itself involves including parimutual wagering (against other "dumb" money); hopes, dreams and sometimes crushing expense; and animal welfare. There is also the reality of training and racing the high performance animal versus watching at times pseudoreality from afar and reading the same stuff online. That's not a slam by the way--at least 12 years ago now I became good friends with an FEI level dressage rider who was training with Olympians and WEG types and through her got an entree into the world of high performance horses. To a newbie with a leased schoolhorse raised on a steady diet of Practical Horseman, it was an eyeopening reality check. I suspect sometimes posts on here from the really experienced horsemen and women can have the same effect on others with good and bad results.

So we are all coming from it from differing perspectives, experience levels and philosophies, but there is no reason why we can't be polite about it. I understand the whole concept of slamming the idea of the poster versus the poster but honestly does a thoughtful person really have to argue a point by calling someone's idea dumb? I'm probably as guilty of it as anyone but I think there should be zero tolerance on name calling period.

[spex4me]

Now as I cannot remember who exactly posted what, I would say if WH was not one who considered option #3 , then no the comment is fine. But it could be touche if they did choose #3.
For me that comment was innocous, and tongue in cheek, but after seeing some other's input on the current discussion..... that could be construed as "Are you calling me a flipping nut job????". And had it been posted by a few other people, it definitely would have come under attack.
But this illustrated to me just how much of a kid gloved discussion do people in general expect?
Rogue, I would say who cares. You make the rules and if ppl don't like them they can leave. Obviously we can't decide what we want as we all may get along but have very different views about what's what.
Seems like when I was growing up, I was never given the opportunity to question my parents or any one else's judment if I were a visitor to their "area".
I may personally want a very liberal hand ruling this group, but I know that I can also abide by rules to stay.
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[larrygene]

rogue, you know you have a personal vendetta toward some of us who are able to ferret out the truth and call you on it. By taking one of my comments out of context you started this thread and called it "Clearing the Air". You have in your lastest attempt used several of my comments to prove your point of what is and what is not offensive. I challenge you to go back through all of my statements and comments and find one "curse word" I have used!!! Or even find where I used words like, idiot, moron, stupid, or any other obvious, I repeat, obvious, belittling or demeaning word toward anyone. Yes I called ageecee a coonass and guess what, he defended me and the word. He is a coonass and proud of it!! There are no coonasses in Indiana so you can be at ease. As far as Sam is concerned you will defend her to the end. Most of us know it. We all wonder why???? You say her account is inactive. I say, Good and I hope it stays that way!!! She has done this time and time again. Start something then go hide out for a few days until you come in and squelch it. If anyone should be offended it should be me!!! You have singled me out by taking comments out of context, totally deleting my opinions and comments, not because they are offensive but because I tell it like it is and further more plain and simple, you don't like me. You would love for me to leave but that will never happen!! You will have to kick me off. Set up the rules and guidelines and lets get back to talking TB's. I can live with them I assure you!!!!

Larrygene

[Roguelet]