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reedhill
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:46 am    Post subject: LEGACY IN GOLD has been SOLD overseas. Reply with quote

RHF wants to thank the very well known former owner and trainer of the famous FEI Dressage
palomino stallion Glitter Please and horsewoman and FEI dressage rider, trainer, clinician,
& judge Gigi Nutter of Tough 'n Go Farm in Whitesburg, GA, for letting Legacy In Gold begin
his breeding career @ RHF! We can't wait to bring alive a new generation of Glitter Please
grand Get and show the world that this rare line of palomino TB, although seldomly seen in the
show industry, and ever on the race track, is here to grow in numbers and grace the show and
racing worlds with his offspring's talent! Below is Legacy's sire Glitter Please with Gigi Nutter riding.

Legacy In Gold is a sticked 16.2 3/4 H, 1999 JC golden palomino TB stallion by Glitter Please
and out of Honey Rider who was by Straight Flush, a half brother to Secretariat!
RHF will be offering a small and "Selected Book" of breedings open to Racing and Show
NON dilute TB mares only in 2011. To have your mare considered for Legacy's 2011 Book,
please email a conformation photo and pedigree of your TB mare to carolynrdhll@aol.com

Stud Fee is $500. (BOOK CLOSES 12-31-2010)! Booking Fee is $500 and due with a signed Breeding Agreement.
Two year LFG contract, NON transferable. Clean culture required before mare is bred.
Board: Single mare is $12/day and Mare/Foal is $15/day.

RHF has a select group of TB mares bred to Legacy for 2011 and possibly 1-2 colts may be offered for sale in 2011. Sorry, no dilute fillies will be offered for sale.
Inquire early if you wish to be put on a waiting list for a dilute son of Legacy.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked


Non Dilutes huh???? Crying or Very sad

Good luck with him and the others...

HH Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with him... Nice to see another Glitter Please line stallion out there breeding besides my two (El Dorado and Golden Time).

Is he going under saddle? Has he been shown or will you be competing him?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gigi Nutter had him going nicely U/S, but her time was pulled away from him for her clients and clinics, so we felt it was time he get to the breeding shed right away considering he is 11 this year.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LEGACY IN GOLD: http://www.pedigreequery.com/legacy+in+gold
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

His fee is quite high considering you can breed to a double dilute for less than that.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spacely wrote:
His fee is quite high considering you can breed to a double dilute for less than that.


We have good interest from individuals that want the GP line offered by itself without the Milkie line. There is quite a bit of Milkie line out there and some animals that are not desirable because of conformation, height, and movement issues as everyone here is aware of. Just because a stallion may be a double dilute, does not always mean he will pass on what a breeder is looking for.

Considering the single dilute GP sons that are currently standing, which I can count on one hand (that I know of), we feel his stud fee is reflecting what his foals will be like no matter what color they come out. Personally I would love to own a chestnut, bay, black (if possible, not sure there), palomino, and buckskin Legacy daughter…………even a grey would be super! If they come out 16.1 or taller, well conformed, and have great movement from both parents………I can in vision the spectacular TB or WB stallions I would put on each different colored filly he produced.

For RHF, it’s not just about color, it’s about offering ourselves and other breeders prospects that will excel in dressage, eventing, breeding, and hopefully racing one day. As always, we will work with breeders that have a well thought out goal for the foal they hope to produce. If a stud fee needs financed and made into payments we will make sure a breeder has a chance to breed to Legacy.

RHF does not own enough mares, property, or have enough money and help to bring back the GP line
like I dream about, but slowly we can breed some special individuals that amateurs or professionals can purchase and show, that hopefully will make it to a top notch sport stallion or become a top notch stallion in the future. Legacy is 11 this year, and will be twelve when his first foals hit the ground in 2011. Many are already eager to see what is coming, myself included. RHF was not going to offer Legacy to outside mares, but we feel it is too important to isolate the GP line by itself in a bigger way, and this will allow for that to happen.
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TWENTYFOUR KT GOLD Palomino (AA)
EXTREME SCENE (EE, Aa, nO)
R H F GOLDEN GLOBE Palomino (AA)
BLUE GHOSTWIND TLC (EE, aa, LPLP)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HeadlessHorseman wrote:
Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked


Non Dilutes huh???? Crying or Very sad

Good luck with him and the others...

HH Smile


HH, just because you have brought this up, and I knew it would come up, I will change his ad to say private treaty to a limited number of single dilute mares. How does that sound?
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TWENTYFOUR KT GOLD Palomino (AA)
EXTREME SCENE (EE, Aa, nO)
R H F GOLDEN GLOBE Palomino (AA)
BLUE GHOSTWIND TLC (EE, aa, LPLP)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW...it sounds like I need to LOOK INTO this Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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some animals that are not desirable because of conformation, height, and movement issues as everyone here is aware of. Just because a stallion may be a double dilute, does not always mean he will pass on what a breeder is looking for.


I completely agree with you there. IMO there are only 2 DD stallions in North America that are good enough quality to be reproducing. I am glad to hear your goals are not all about color.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AND are these fellas in CANADA?????

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back on March 21, 2009 I posted this message under another thread
( http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24198&start=0 )
Perhaps it applies somehow again, but on this occasion as applied to GOOD CONFORMATION INSTEAD OF RACING ABILITY (as discussed here). But this is SOLELY intended as a general comment that may apply to many topics.

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When I ponder on what it takes to a rare color to become mainstream it is important to relate to the trajectory once followed by the gray coat color.

The gray coat color was among the founders of the Thoroughbred breed but it took nearly 200 years until the appearance of a genuine top notch talented runner like champion The Tetrarch (gray H 1911) in order to catapult his phenotype into common spotlight, regardless of its coat color.

Even when this first echelon was achieved, this alone was not sufficient. It was necessary to wait until the appearance of a prepotent gray lineage of the caliber of Mahmoud (gray horse 1933) to really see effervescence on the gray color ---thanks to the many gray broodmares he produced. A couple of generations later, many good gray horses, mainly coming via good gray broodmares began tilting the scale in favor of the appearance of extraordinary gray champions like the ones we are accustomed seeing today. If you want to verify what I am saying, just go to the historical racing charts of the K-P-B participants and you will see a constant increase of so-so grays, then excellent ones, and their achievements, decade by decade. This comes as no surprise.

It is my opinion that in order for the whites, perlinos, and cremellos, to achieve top-notch standing, regardless of their color, we have to pinpoint and promote their exposure towards racing careers. Seeking to link our rare colored Thoroughbreds to the best racing lineages of the world and hoping for a Mahmoud factor to appear.

Jumping, dressage and other similar careers are really quite meritorious activities which we all should encourage with kind enthusiasm, because it is an important and necessary life support medicine. But for the sake of exponentially blossoming the endeavors of coat color breeding, in my opinion there is no shortcut but to aim directly to the top of the racing pyramid (namely, successful racing careers) and from there disseminate through the air all your phenotypical seeds (diseminate these rare coat colors) and then every step of the pyramid (all the different horse activities) will be influenced by these colors and the "maize" will grow..

Right now there is a living example that proves my point. It is the white filly YUKICHAN, recent winner of a Grade 2 Oaks race in Japan. Yukichan is a daughter of Shirayukihime, an unexpected white daughter of the perennial top-notch Japanese stallion, Sunday Silence. Since Shirayukihime was reagally bred from a meritorious racing family, she was sent to another reagally bred sire and track record holder named Kurofune to be bred. The produce was YUKICHAN. You can be sure that YUKICHAN will visit all the best breeding sheds in her country and most probably, if properly guided, her breeding influence will remain available and ready to extend for future generation. Not all our white Thoroughbreds are so blessed, but there is a good chance that YUKICHAN will promote her coat color and assist the rest of all white Thoroughbreds in exponential terms. But only God knows.

In short rare coat colors need to achieve 3 steps:

01. The appearance of an unusually good talented runner
02. The subsequent appearance of a profilic broodmare sire coming from the cited talented runner
03. The exponential appearance of many talented runners (future sires) coming from the daughters and descendants of the prolific broodmare sire.

In the meantime, we are all very proud of the extraordinary efforts breeders like you and many others are devoting to the production of rare phenotyped Thoroughbreds. Right now, we are very fortunate to witness the existance of some of the finest examples you and others are producing.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HeadlessHorseman wrote:
AND are these fellas in CANADA?????

HH Laughing


One resides in Canada.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are correct Jorge, I agree 100%.

Interestingly and just recently I have been contacted by two private race horse breeders that are looking forward to breeding to Legacy and Shine (Twentyfour Kt Gold), strictly for running, and they can't wait to see them win at big tracks! There is a desire for something "new" to be offered, IMO color is the key. As you have said Jorge, the running blood has got to be there up close in the pedigree on the mares, not 4 and 5 generations back. In my case, we have boys that have never set foot on a track, or been ridden, but the quality is there, and some breeders are smart enough to know it can be done. Some TB racing folks aren't afraid to "get caught" owning or training color for the track. Word is getting around, but there are still racing folks that don't even know that color exists yet, I know, I speak to someone at least once a month who tells me they never "heard of such a color on a TB" before, then I direct them to our website and they are at least intrigued.
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TWENTYFOUR KT GOLD Palomino (AA)
EXTREME SCENE (EE, Aa, nO)
R H F GOLDEN GLOBE Palomino (AA)
BLUE GHOSTWIND TLC (EE, aa, LPLP)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorge wrote:
LEGACY IN GOLD: http://www.pedigreequery.com/legacy+in+gold


I like the doubling up of Princequillo, plus Turn-to and Somethingroyal in his pedigree. These are good 'sport' TB ancestors as well as important race ancestors.

I asked this question on another thread (and got rudely jumped on) Shocked but I do need to ask it again. So please bear with me.
I see that Glitter Please's dam is listed as a buckskin - do we know the source of her colour? Did she have siblings or other foals who were also dilute?

I liked Glitter Please, and considered breeding to him. Nice horse.

Good luck with your new stallion!
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