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Toccet02
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject: It starts: First Storm Cat 3x3 I have seen Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: It starts: First Storm Cat 3x3 I have seen Reply with quote

Toccet02 wrote:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php?query_type=horse&search_bar=horse&h=TRIBAL+MOBILE&g=5&p=0&f=1&l=


Someone needs to share this with Louis. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not me, dude--not me!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least he has no other inbreeding in five generations. Storm Cat will get all the blame (or credit) for this one.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.pedigreequery.com/strongdollarpolicy

Just picked up this mare for a friend of mine. Real nice mare but told my friend I didn't know the pedigree as she never would have sat on the mare otherwise. One Storm Cat grandson came through my barn a few years ago and she jumped on the "anti Cat" wagon. Now that she's ridden her she loves the mare. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have seen the pedigree of G3 winner Bridgetown haven't you?

http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedigree.cfm?page_state=ORDER_AND_CONFIRM&reference_number=7988275&registry=T&horse_name=Bridgetown&dam_name=Ellesmere&foaling_year=2007&nicking_stats_indicator=Y
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Toccet02
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope. As I said, it's the first I've seen.
Scary. INHO.
Watch for a possible increase in heart related problems if SC inbreeding takes off. That's from my own personal research/observations of storm cat sons and heart issues.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toccet02 wrote:
nope. As I said, it's the first I've seen.
Scary. INHO.
Watch for a possible increase in heart related problems if SC inbreeding takes off. That's from my own personal research/observations of storm cat sons and heart issues.


What kind of heart issues?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heart attacks; from covering mares, racing, working out.

Tabasco Cat
High Yield , and son High Again
Hennessy
an unnamed 2005 SC colt who died after breeze show workout from heart attack
Sailor's Warning,
Cat's at Home---

All died of heart attacks or heart disease.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting observation.

Myocardial infarction in thoroughbreds hasn't been an area of deep research. There was a paper done on some baselines back in 2003 (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1939-1676.2003.tb02486.x/abstract) but I am unaware of much since then.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

never forget watching early workouts and seeing a heart attack at the finish line. Sobering sight, the track response crew was amazing though the alarm went off and they were there in less than 2 minutes
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a mention in one of the Jane Smiley books--think it is in "A year at the races" that her vet told her that there is a connection between horses with large hearts and heart attacks. Makes you go hummm.
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x factor, in those cases a large heart is probably a diseased heart.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another Strom cat inbreeding that I need to breed, and no other inbreeding in five generations

Please be advised

http://www.pedigreequery.com/tko

Thanks.......... Roar
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roar wrote:
Another Strom cat inbreeding that I need to breed, and no other inbreeding in five generations

Please be advised

http://www.pedigreequery.com/tko

Thanks.......... Roar


I ran into some problems with this horse when checking the records of the parents. Jeedjard, the dam, is not in the Equibase system.

That said, someone bred an unraced son of Storm Cat to a daughter of a mediocre son of Storm Cat (sent to Thailand). I have to wonder what they expect.
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