Looking for Suggestions

texas tea · Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject: Looking for Suggestions

I have 2 mares/fillies that I may breed this coming season. Looking for suggestions. Stud fee budget would be up to $30K each.

Oh Whata Holiday, winner of $116K by Harlans Holiday out of Just About Time.

Seeking Destiny, unraced, by Ford Every Stream out of Destiny Calls

Thanks,
Texas Tea

kimberley mine · Grade I Winner Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 1581

Where are you, where are the mares, and what were their racing aptitudes?

texas tea · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:39 am Post subject: Breeding suggestions

Joltman · Grade III Winner Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1123

The usual questions - breed to race or breed commercially.

If you have $35k for each, that's great. Since I don't see any big time black type close up and the second filly was unraced - by a sire basically unknown, I don't think it wise to go to $35k when there are some real quality sires for half that. (city Zip) Alternatively you might go to the Nov sales in Ky and get a SW or SP dam possibly already in foal for that kind of money. Just my humble opinion.

my first impression for Oh What a holiday is that there is a lot of inbreeding already. The one guy missing is Mr. P, so maybe look to one in the Mr. P line, like Roman Ruler. Or maybe its time for an outcross. I think Harlans Holiday has good potential as a broodmare sire.

Seeking Destiny - some nice female family going back a piece. Maybe the Fappiano line can catch something with that line. (signal Tap) She's only two now, so I'm not sure about breeding even before she is actually 3. No chance of running to improve her page I gather? Let her finish growing. You may want to decide in part on her physical type.

jm
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kimberley mine · Grade I Winner Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 1581

My first thought for Oh Whata Holiday was the polar opposite of Joltman's....go for a horse who carries more of the same strain she is inbred to AND throws hard to that line.

Put It Back is a lot of horse for $5k and is throwing HARD to clusters of Mahmoud, Bold Ruler, and Damascus. Montbrook is another very good horse at a reasonable price who appreciates plenty of Bold Ruler in his mares. Nine of his top ten earners have a Bold Ruler line, and he is also throwing to genetic siblings of the Bold Ruler/Princequillo or Nasrullah/My Babu (e.g. Iron Ruler) cross.

As for Seeking Destiny, she is unraced by a sire who has not distinguished himself. Buying a good mare in foal or a weanling is probably a better way to make money...but if you do want to breed her, I'd suggest staying in Louisiana to maximise the breeders'/owners' bonuses. Smooth Air is unproven but fast fast fast, a second-place finish in the Met Mile away from standing in Kentucky, out of a French Deputy mare--French Deputy being one of the three best sources of pure speed around, the others being In Excess and Hasili--who has now produced two graded stakes winners out of six named foals.

griff · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:39 pm Post subject:

take your $60k and start attending high end sales

griff
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