Surviving twins and their stories

Jorge · Moderator Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 5479

Surviving twins and their stories

Spectacular Bid’s second broodmare, Stop on Red was twin to another filly who was named Go on Green. Its amazing that both were relatively successful runners and producers. Would like to read stories on VIABLE TWINS such as the aforementioned mares. Thanks in advance for your participation

GO ON GREEN (Chestnut M 1959) http://www.pedigreequery.com/go+on+green
[32 starts with 7 wins 3 places and 9 shows $24, 950]

STOP ON RED (Chestnut M 1959) http://www.pedigreequery.com/stop+on+red
[32 starts with 51 starts with 7 wins 5 places and 9 shows $15, 425]

Jorge · Moderator Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 5479

The following article: Bella and Boomer: The Miracle Twins which can be read at: http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/beyond-the-blinkers/archive/2012/02/21/the-miracle-twin-story-of-bella-and-boomer.aspx illustrates how really difficult and life-threatening is for a mare to deliver a pair of surviving twins. This is a dramatic testimony of how interesting the case of Spectacular Bid’s ancestress is.

karenkarenn · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject:

Our mare originally was carring twins, as Madelyn knows.
I talked to our vet about the morals to pinching off one and to another on this forum. Why would anyone not want to pinch off a twin? And why didn't they not pinch off the twin, Jorge?
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Georgerz · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:54 pm Post subject:

The morals of pinching off one of the twins? Really???

mehile · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject:

What would be the possible negative impact towards a vet that misses twins (several times). I know I would want to take the moral high ground and say mistakes happen, but... Even if the mare and both foals survive its still a bad situation and that's the very best possibility.

karenkarenn · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:45 pm Post subject:

Yes George there are morals - Yes really...
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karenkarenn · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:47 pm Post subject:

okay Mehile- the topic is surviving twins... Point is how and why?
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Georgerz · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:01 am Post subject:

Would you care to explain, Karen? What is moral or immoral about pinching a twin to stop an undesirable and dangerous pregnancy for the mare? I just don't get it.

mehile · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:05 am Post subject:

clh · Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:30 pm Post subject:

We had a mare that almost always had to have a twin pinched, every year. Thankfully, she routinely retained the other one so that wasn't a problem. Another one of the mares had one the last time she was at the farm. No matter how much you try to prevent it, it happens. This one particular mare usually always had two follicles and when she was bred, they both always ovulated. I was lucky that my vet always caught it.
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madelyn · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:56 am Post subject:

I have known a lot of mare owners who had mares who "twinned" and it wasn't caught by their vet and every single one aborted. Pinching a twin is not only for the good of the mare. It is for the great benefit of vastly increasing the odds of getting one good healthy live foal. In the case of Karen's mare, it was also going to be the mare's First Foal! Not to mention that you might get a runt that you will owe a second stud fee on..
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Mood Swings · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:30 am Post subject:

My friends mare had live twins in 2005.

HEIDI'S SECRET, 2000, Langfuhr- Secret by Clever Trick.

2005 Doublejinx, Dkbbr, f, Porto Foricos Unraced

DP = 11-5-18-0-0 DI = 2.78 CD = 0.79

Sale Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee

ONTSEP 2006 339 $3,124 $6,042 ylg (8/9) $4,000

2005 Zenaida, Dkbbr, f, Porto Foricos She was the runt of the two.

In North America 1 1 0 1 0 4,040 ( 65)

North America Turf Record 1 0 1 0 4,040 ( 65)

DP = 11-5-18-0-0 DI = 2.78 CD = 0.79
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Tairaterces · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:58 am Post subject:

Most famous (almost)twin I know of is Tiznow.

On the dvd "On the Muscle" with Richard Mandella. They go to Kentucky to the breeding farms and the vet is checking the mares. He said I have a twin, then he says as he pinches off the twin, "may you rest in peace".
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Lucy · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: