Louis's Blog on Inbreeding

ElPrado · Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject:

Pretty good odds that he will have me die of laughing myself to death over his spelling and mangled English. His great understanding of genetic science will kill me sooner than that. I may need EMS to revive me over some of them.

Shammy Davis · Chef de Race: Classic Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 4451

EL Prado wrote:

Bill from WA · Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject:

geriactric sceance?
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Shammy Davis · Chef de Race: Classic Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 4451

Bill from WA wrote:

ElPrado · Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject:

That's what he uses! A seance!

Bast · Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject:

louis finochio · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:29 am Post subject:

THE DIRECTOR (USA) dkb/br. C, 2007 DP = 10-2-8-0-0 (20) DI = 4.00 CD = 1.10 - 6 Starts, 1 Wins, 1 Places, 1 Shows Career Earnings: $26,150

Owner: Gardner, Martin, Haymes, Neil & Westside Rentals.com
Breeder: Marvin Delfiner, Ted Folkerth & Brookdale
State Bred: KY
Winnings: 6 Starts: 1 - 1 - 1, $26,150

Pulled up and Vanned off in Race 6 at Santa Anita on 1-22-2012.

Retired with a ligament injury on January 23, 2011. He will remain with his current ownership.

THE DIRECTOR br. C, 2007
Mr. Greeley---Arcadiana, by Deputy Minister

TD is a NFB bred from a Ph. over Ph. mating. TD was inbred 4 X 5 Bold Ruler---5 X 5 Native Dancer.

TD has 23 crosses of Ph. stallions & 13 crosses Ph. mares. TD has the same PH. FS & mares, that have contributed to the most injuries & breakdowns, they are:

Nearctic, Native Dancer 2 crosses, Nasrullah, Bold Ruler 2 crosses, Nashua, RAN, Secretariat, ND, Mr. P., Natalma, Gold Digger.

Mr. Greeley sire of TD is found in many tb of unsoundness. Mr. Greeley is Inbred 4 X 4 Native Dancer---4 X 5 X 5 Nasrullah---5 X 5 Polynesian---4 X 5 Bold Ruler, all Ph. stallions.
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Sailor Kenshin · Starters Handicap Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Posts: 606

At least it's not an obit.
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ElPrado · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:38 am Post subject:

He's running out of obits to pick and choose from.

louis finochio · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:25 am Post subject:

These filly's & mares inherited their soundness from those NP sire lines. In there time frame those FB hadnt arrived.

Susan's Girl 63 starts---Swynford over Ph.
Lady Pitt 29 starts---Teddy over Swynford
Syrian Sea 26 starts---Ph. over Prince Rose
Shuvee 44 starts---Ph. over Prince Rose
Dark Mirage 27 starts---Swynford over Prince Rose
Cicada 66 starts---Swynford over Dark Ronald
Prides Profile 42 starts---Swynford over Teddy
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ElPrado · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject:

Didn't their dam lines have anything to do with it?
How can Phalaris mean nothing in one pedigree and be the doom monster in the next?
Susan's Girl, Syrian Sea and Shuvee all have Phalaris right there for us to see.
And this makes Secretariat automatically a non FB stallion, he's a full brother to Syrian Sea.

BenB · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/sagawing 52 sts inbred to ph stalions and still running.

Bast · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject:

Georgerz · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:21 am Post subject:

This is a 1965 Fashion Bred. But her progeny, none, but Ocozoal and Oso will be a FB, per Louises rules.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/patty11

louis finochio · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:56 am Post subject:

SAGAWING (GER) br. G, 2003
Winged Love---Sagami, by Greinton

SW is a type 2 FB, being inbred 4 X 5 ND---4 X 4 High Top---5 X 5 Derring-Do---5 X 5 Camenae mare=Rabelais

SW has prolific crosses of NP stalions & mares, they are:

Neckar, Parabola mare=Ticino
Herbager, Sea Hawk, Appiani, Star Appeal, Stammesart=Dark Ronald
Saint Crespin, Special mare, Angela Rucelli mare, Belle Affaire mare=Hyperion

Val de Loir, Pantoufel mare=Swynford
Tantieme, Reliance, La Senga mare, Flaming Page mare=Teddy

Charlottesville=Prince Rose
Camenae mare 2 crosses=Rabelais
Relance mare=Fair Play

Sly Pola mare=Peter Pan
Chandelier mare, Cygnet mare=Tourbillon

This type 2 FB mating has 24 crosses of NP stallions & mares. They bring soundness into this FB mating. We dont find this many crosses of NP stamina in our US FB, as our breeders are breeding for speed.
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