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does anyone have a derby horse yet?
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Shammy Davis
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't want to forget EL PRADINO. The Derby is going to be run on Cinco de Mayo and you certainly don't want to disregard the position of the moon, sun, and stars in you handicapping.
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vallygirl927
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll Have Another is my pick...
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Bast
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have a pick yet for the horse who finishes LAST?

This is actually more difficult than picking the winner.
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ElPrado
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trinniberg. If that's how you spell it.
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Bast
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ElPrado wrote:
Trinniberg. If that's how you spell it.


He's on my list. If he runs like he has in the past, he'll need oxygen at the head of the stretch.
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jagger
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:12 pm    Post subject: Derby Reply with quote

Daddy Long Legs
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vallygirl927
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If My Adonis gets in, he's really interesting based on his stamina influences. Bred to run the classic distance by Plesantly Perfect (Breeder's Cup, Dubai Cup and Pacific Classic winner) out of an Elusive Quality mare (sire of a Derby winner and Breeder's Cup classic winner, think Smarty Jones and Raven's Pass).
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Bast
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Derby Reply with quote

jagger wrote:
Daddy Long Legs


To win or to finish last?

The UAE Derby time was not wonderful.
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bdw0617
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt DLL would finish last even if that race was slow if anything about him he will get 10F that I am sure of.

What scares me about him is that the scat daddy's tend so far to have an affinity for the grass / fake stuff even though scat daddy himself was a dirt horse.

I think he will pass a bunch of tired horses late but as Bast pointed out even if he takes to the dirt, that race was lot very flattering.
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bdw0617
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they just did the draw. I'm on creative cause. perfect draw. Union rags too far in, Bodemister because of the draw will be gunned to the lead or trampled and will burn out, the option to sit off the pace is no longer there for him.

Duhallan will run late, I'll have another would have to run the race of his life to win from 19 he's not big brown at least I don't think he is.

I really like creative cause here.
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karenkarenn
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

would you mind posting the post positions. I can't find anything online yet.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Daddy Long Legs
2. Optimizer
3. Take Charge Indy
4. Union Rags
5. Dullahan
6. Bodemeister
7. Rousing Sermon
8. Creative Cause
9. Trinniberg
10. Daddy Knows Best
11. Alpha
12. Perspective
13. Went The Day Well
14. Hansen
15. Gemologist
16. El Padrino
17. Done Talking
18. Sabercat
19. I'll Have Another
20. Liaison
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vallygirl927
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Daddy Long Legs
2. Optimizer
3. Take Charge Indy
4. Union Rags
5. Dullahan
6. Bodemeister
7. Rousing Sermon
8. Creative Cause
9. Trinniberg
10. Daddy Knows Best
11. Alpha
12. Perspective
13. Went The Day Well
14. Hansen
15. Gemologist
16. El Padrino
17. Done Talking
18. Sabercat
19. I'll Have Another
20. Liaison
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ElPrado
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just wrote Daddy Long Legs off the radar.
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Bill from WA
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Daddy Long Legs, Colm O’Donoghue, 30-1 (B)
2. Optimizer, Jon Court, 50-1 (B)
3. Take Charge Indy, Calvin Borel, 15-1 (D)
4. Union Rags, Julien Leparoux, 9-2 (C) *
5. Dullahan, Kent Desormeaux, 8-1 (A++) *
6. Bodiemeister, Mike Smith, 4-1 (B)
7. Rousing Sermon, Jose Lezcano, 50-1 (D)
8. Creative Cause, Joel Rosario, 12-1 (B)
9. Trinniberg, Willie Martinez, 50-1 (D)
10. Daddy Nose Best, Garrett Gomez, 15-1 (A)
11. Alpha, Rajiv Maragh, 15-1 (A+)
12. Prospective, Luis Contreras, 30-1 (B)
13. Went the Day Well, John Velazquez, 20-1 (A) **
14. Hansen, Ramon Dominguez, 10-1 (C)
15. Gemologist, Javier Castellano, 6-1 (A) *
16. El Padrino, Rafael Bejarano, 20-1 (C)
17. Done Talking, Sheldon Russell, 50-1 (D)
18. Sabercat, Corey Nakatani, 30-1 (A) *
19. I’ll Have Another, Martin Gutierrez, 12-1 (A+) *
20. Liaison, Martin Garcia, 50-1 (A)
AE – My Adonis, Elvis Trujillo, x-1 (B+)

After the PP draw, I am adding Union Rags (been working like a monster) and Gemologist (hard to toss an undefeated horse) into my exotics mix, along with previous choices, I'll Have Another, Alpha, Dullahan, Sabercat and Went The Day Well. Staying with a win bet on Went The Day Well as my top pick. (I'll Have Another just might come back to haunt me).

Bill
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