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Sunday Silence
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 Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:32 am Post subject: Undefeated Black Caviar best Sprinter in the world |
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World's best sprinters meet this Saturday at Flemington in the Lightning Stakes 5f
6-04.10 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES (1000 METRES)
Of $750000 and $2500 trophy. 1st $450000 and trophy of $2500, 2nd $135000, 3rd $67500, 4th $33750, 5th $18750, 6th $15000, 7th $15000, 8th $15000.
Standard Weight for Age. (GROUP 1).
No Allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 20 + 4 EM
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Handicapper
Rating
1 HAY LIST John McNair Glyn Schofield 10 58.5 115
2 GRAND DUELS Byron Cozamanis Steven Arnold 5 58.5 108
3 TRUE PERSUASION Mick Price Craig Newitt 8 58.5 98
4 LEAPFROG Bruce W Hill Paul Hammersley 1 58.5 89
5 TOLLESPRIT Shane Fliedner James Winks 9 58.5 94
6 KING PULSE Michael Moroney Mark Zahra 3 58.5 99
7 BLACK CAVIAR Peter G Moody Luke Nolen 7 56.5 118
8 STIRLING GROVE Richard Jolly Craig Williams 2 55.5 94
9 CRYSTAL LILY Mathew Ellerton & Simon Zahra Damien Oliver 4 53.5 107
10 WARM LOVE David Brideoake Ben Melham 6 53.5 94
She won by several lengths. 9-0! |
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wilf
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| It's 13 for 13 now and nothing can get near her,racing right handed in Sydney and Brisbane was new for her but she gobbled up a monster in HAY LIST and made him look second rate again,absolutely remarkable! |
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Barcaldine
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I watched her win her 17th last night on TV and was very impressed. She seems to have learned to relax better in the early stages, too. Won in a gallop by almost five lengths.
Love her pedigree. She exemplifies what I have coined as a "reflective inbreeding," that is her parents' pedigree "mirror" each other. Certainly her 3 x 4 to VAIN accounts for much of her zip.
I will be very interested in watching her perform on the international stage later this year. |
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Joltman
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simply the best, superior.
on to dubai?
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Bast
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| Joltman wrote: | simply the best, superior.
on to dubai?
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Someone with real guts should ship to Australia with a challenger.
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kimberley mine
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| Bast wrote: | | Joltman wrote: | simply the best, superior.
on to dubai?
jm |
Someone with real guts should ship to Australia with a challenger. |
Like who? Dream Ahead, last year's Cartier sprinter, is retired. Kinshasa no Kiseki is a nice horse but not up to BC's level. JJ the Jet Plane won the Hong Kong Sprint 2 years ago, but hasn't won past the Gr-2 level since. Rocket Man maybe, if he's on the form that won him the 2011 Dubai Golden Shaheen but he hasn't been at that form since. The US-based turf sprinters aren't up to that level. Maybe there's somebody in South America who's that good, but considering Aussie turf sprinters are the best in the world, maybe not. |
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Bast
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| kimberley mine wrote: | | Bast wrote: | | Joltman wrote: | simply the best, superior.
on to dubai?
jm |
Someone with real guts should ship to Australia with a challenger. |
Like who? Dream Ahead, last year's Cartier sprinter, is retired. Kinshasa no Kiseki is a nice horse but not up to BC's level. JJ the Jet Plane won the Hong Kong Sprint 2 years ago, but hasn't won past the Gr-2 level since. Rocket Man maybe, if he's on the form that won him the 2011 Dubai Golden Shaheen but he hasn't been at that form since. The US-based turf sprinters aren't up to that level. Maybe there's somebody in South America who's that good, but considering Aussie turf sprinters are the best in the world, maybe not. |
I'm not sure of a specific challenger, but since it is possible to ship to Dubai and win, it should also be possible to ship anywhere else with a top horse and have a chance at a competitive effort. Except for Dubai, Americans tend to expect the world to ship here, and rarely go elsewhere. When was the last time an American-trained horse contested the Arc?
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kimberley mine
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| Bast wrote: |
I'm not sure of a specific challenger, but since it is possible to ship to Dubai and win, it should also be possible to ship anywhere else with a top horse and have a chance at a competitive effort. Except for Dubai, Americans tend to expect the world to ship here, and rarely go elsewhere. When was the last time an American-trained horse contested the Arc? |
That's kind of a non sequitur, about the Arc, and FWIW the US would never have been on the list for a horse like Black Caviar. If she were going to go international, it would be to a place where the prize money is worth the time, expense, hassle, and danger of travel. There isn't a single turf sprint anywhere in the US worth that nonsense. Dubai softens the blow by paying the travel costs of the best horses--not sure about HK or Singapore. |
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wilf
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| I am now the proud owner of a lock of hair pulled from Black Caviar's tail last month at her stables in Caulfield Racecourse, Melbourne, Victoria,Australia. I will weave it around the browband of my race bridle and hope that perhaps a micro atom of the great mare's DNA can boost my chances. Hey ,don't laugh ,it's absolutely true and we all need a little help from a third party sometimes. |
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parlo
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| That was a short thing - Black Caviar almost failed because of the overconfidence of her rider, who thought the race was over some 10 m before the line! |
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Elles
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Jorge
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I would prefer to see BLACK CAVIAR saying goodbye as an undefeated
Thoroughbred for the ages rather than slowly fading away with a blemished record like it happened to CAMARERO back in 1956. I would have concluded with 55 wins not 56. |
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