Louis's Blog on Inbreeding

BenB · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject:

Whatever that means "pedigree researcher"

louis finochio · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:47 pm Post subject:

The chart i saw said he was vanned off.

My new research study, tracking the soundness in those tbs that started 45 starts & up, does not include G. In my study of those FB & NFB does include G. These are 2 different projects.
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ElPrado · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject:

That's the problem, he doesn't have a clue if they were hurt, what was hurt, why they were hurt, what was hurt, if they even made it out of the gate, whatever. His "research" is as useless as teats on a boar.

DDT · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:05 pm Post subject:

Louis

Both the Daily Racing Form's and Equibase's charts of the race do not show him being vanned off, just what chart were you looking at? As to your new research project, the reason geldings are not included is because you are using the pedigrees contained in the Bloodhorse Stallion register to count the number of starts of stallions and mares listed in each pedigree, there are no geldings listed there. As with any of your "research projects" the total number of starts by ancestors has very little to do with the soundness of any foal, how those ancestors were raised, trained and raced, and most importantly when they raced could be an indication of inherent soundness however once the foal is in the hands of human caretakers the genetic influences can be compromised by a number of things. You are wasting your time, but then this entire thread is a waste of time.

DDT

ElPrado · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject:

Maybe they hit the gate coming out... does that make them unsound? Maybe the jockey just plain fell off, does that make them unsound? Maybe they wanted to check out the seagulls in the infield lake, does that make them unsound? (And that seems to have happened before.) Maybe an albatross landed on their rump, that would make them unsound, too, right? They could have decided to be steeplechasers and jumped into the grandstand. It may mean they are are as loony as you, but not physically unsound before they took flight.

Diane · Moderator Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 797 Location: SoCal

www.calracing.com has free replays.

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Results.cfm?type=Horse&refno=8294843&registry=T
Also free

Crystal · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject:

a "pedigree researcher" who doesn't apply his/her knowledge is just the same as a window shopper in my opinion. Your Gucci's don't mean much unless someone asks you what are you wearing..

And THERE is my Fashion-bred advice for the day..

pfrsue · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject:

griff · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject:

Crystal

I like your Gucci analogy. Think maybe it also applies to people that give advice based on their experience with their virtual stable[s] ?

griff
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louis finochio · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject:

I used the charts that appear in my local paper, I will ask CS, what really happened. I am not using the BH stallion Register to track the lifetime starts.
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ElPrado · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject:

Then the chart in your local paper screwed it up. It's been known to happen before. This thread has been proof of it.
You don't have to look in the stallion directory. You go to the Equibase website, if you know how to find it, and it will give you the correct information. Look at the top of the web page you are on. Somewhere there is something labeled "search". Type in Equibase. Lo and behold! You can look there and find any info you need. You won't need to trudge around Hollywood Park looking for someone that went to Del Mar anyway.
If you don't, you're still making believe you have a clue. You certainly aren't convincing us that you do. Quite the opposite, in fact.

louis finochio · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:43 am Post subject:

BROKEN DREAMS (USA) ch. M, 2006 DP = 9-7-12-2-2 (32) DI = 2.20 CD = 0.59 - 20 Starts, 6 Wins, 5 Places, 1 Shows Career Earnings: $317,682

Owner: Glen Hill Farm
Breeder: Glen Hill Farm
State Bred: FL
Winnings: 20 Starts: 6 - 5 - 1, $317,682

At 4:
2nd Lena Spencer S. (Sar,5½fT)
At 5:
Won Senator Ken Maddy S. (G3,SA,6½fT)
2nd Monrovia S. (G3,SA,6½fT), Clocker's Corner H. (SA,6½fT)
3rd Great Lady M S. (Hol,6fT)

At 6:
Won Osunitas S. (Dmr,8½fT)

BROKEN DREAMS ch. M, 2006
Broken Vow---Our Dreamer, by Storm Cat

BD is a type 2 FB, being inbred 4 X 4 ND---5 X 5 Nearctic---5 X 5 Natalma
4 X 5 In Reality=Fair Play NP outcross

BD has 12 crosses NP stallions & 19 crosses NP mares
BD has a balance of NP & Ph. sire lines, that we dont see in those type 1 FB.

This breeds soundness, as all the inbreeding to one sire line & prolific crosses of one sire line breeds unsoundness. Congrats to BD breeder Glen Hill Farm in breeding a sound superior runner.
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ElPrado · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject:

no message

DDT · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:02 pm Post subject:

Louis

This filly did not start until she was 4 and all of her wins are on turf. In three years of racing her best year she ran 9 times. It is funny that you always say something about a balanced pedigree or an overwhelming presence of NP sires and mares, however this profile did not apply with Animal Kingdom and the added inbreeding to Damascus and Round Table somehow balanced out Big Brown and he was not considered to be a Fashion Bred by you, type 1 or 2. You go around in circles and you forget what you have already posted. Now, since it was only yesterday that you posted about Sir Hamilton, I would like to know the name of your local news paper that publishes the racing charts, can you supply the name?

DDT