Problem is overbreeding....and irresponsibility

griff · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject:

There was no trama or remorse when i took out a danger to our livestock..

I grew up on a farm and we buchered hogs late ever fall and I took part in that necessary act for as long as I can remember. I also killed and field dressed my first deer when I was age 11. And draged him to the truck.

Killing hogs and culling cows was/is as natural to me as cutting fire wood or pruning apple trees.

I don't eat meat, or even dairy, any more, not because there is anything wrong with killing and eating livestock but found it is not healthy.

Google "Forks Over Knives"

griff

PS: my wife once asked her 3rd grade class where ham came from and the only kid to answer said; "from the store"

kind of funny and kind of sad.

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Affirmed1 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:06 pm Post subject:

[quote="griff"]There was no trama or remorse when i took out a danger to our livestock..

I grew up on a farm and we buchered hogs late ever fall and I took part in that necessary act for as long as I can remember. I also killed and field dressed my first deer when I was age 11. And draged him to the truck.

Killing hogs and culling cows was/is as natural to me as cutting fire wood or pruning apple trees.

I don't eat meat, or even dairy, any more, not because there is anything wrong with killing and eating livestock but found it is not healthy.

Google "Forks Over Knives"

griff

PS: my wife once asked her 3rd grade class where ham came from and the only kid to answer said; "from the store"

kind of funny and kind of sad.

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The same kids in that classroom probably thought Pop Tarts were a basic food group. Smile

bdw0617 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject:

erhrdt3 · Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject:

Hey Griff,

I only eat chicken, and very little of that. At the current time I am trying to find a good nutritional diet to eat so that I can get off the chicken also. I have not had beef, pork, veal, etc. for almost 2 years now. I did not think I could do it, but I saw something on tv about the slaughterhouses and I said no way.

If you or your wife have can suggest any good recipe books or just food books that will suggest to you how to eat properly. I know I'm not getting enough, my hair is falling out and I feel weak all the time. Sorry folks for turning this into a food issue post, but the best way to find out information is to ask!

Thank you! Smile

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karenkarenn · Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject:

I haven't been following along as many people have here but I can say to Erhrdt:
Have you tried Goat cheese, goat milk, almond milk, almond milk yogurt ( watch the soybean sat. fat, I don't like soybeans at all)? there is one other food that I eat. But I can't think of it right now but its for hair growth and healthy hair. I'm sorry.
I to am guilty of butchering livestock but I do it quickly. Without the torture. It's common to have a side of beef, or pork or goat or lamb. I am going to Idaho on Sat to get hay and beef, both are organic and not to much carbs where given on the beef.
And as far as overbreeding goes, THANK GOD we don't let the thoroughbreds have artificial insemination. Then it would be through the roof!!.
K

Ohhhhh Chick Peas, Hummus, or Garbanzo beans. Watch the sat. fat though.
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Sylvie Hebert · Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject:

you don't need food to balance your food intake,but if you have moral problems about the killing but not about the way animals are kept,be only vegetarian,not vegan,keep eating eggs,cheese,etc.Also beans all kind of beans are good.and if you eat lots of variety of veggies plus pasta,grain,and cheese and fruits and nuts you won't have problems,Nature is balanced so you have to balance.
And right no soy and minimal corn they are to modified and I still remember that soy was never for human food anyway
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karenkarenn · Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:31 pm Post subject: Speaking Of...

I wonder if Dr. Oz, who promotes edamame and soy everything, realizes what soy has ( sat. fat wise) and why people should really limit or not eat it at all.
Back to eating meat or meatless diets, what if you raised the food yourself?
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griff · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:28 am Post subject:

once more

I recommend you Google "FORKS OVER KNIVES", scroll down and watch the trailer.

Even better, if you have NetFlick [?], you can pull up the entire video "FORKS OVER KNIVES" .

Either or both are well worth your time and effort. The video's companion book is a #1 New York Times Bestseller.

I have lost 75+ pounds in 18 months but more important yesterday my BP was 117/62 & last blood test showed total cholesterol <110 with a 4/1 ratio.

The whites of my eyes are white again and I am never hungry.

I was introduced to FOK by my 32 YO son who has been diagnosed with a "fatty liver' and placed in a clinical study in Richmond VA.

griff

PS: I realize this is far far off topic and will back off. PM me if you have questions.

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karenkarenn · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:05 am Post subject:

wait who are you talking too?
K
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Fireslam · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject:

madelyn · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject:

AI opens us up to Embryo Transplant and mares having multiple foals per year, though. And shipping semen is a whole lot easier than shipping mares. I tend to agree with karenkaren, AI would probably have a deleterious effect, by increasing the number of TB foals per year.
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karenkarenn · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:26 pm Post subject:

Jeff · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject:

Those who can afford the best mares and afford to breed them to the best stallions will continue to rule the thoroughbred racing world and A.I. would not in any way cause them to breed more or less.

Those who can afford inexpensive mares and afford to breed them to inexpensive stallions will continue to do so, and A.I. would not cause them to breed more or less.

Jeff

griff · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject:

Organic hay sounds interesting.

I once asked the casher at Trader Joes where I could find some inorganuc food and she told me to check the tool section ay Lowes.

God but I love good looking intelligent women.

griff
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briarhalo · Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:04 pm Post subject:

Well, it's not mattering a whole lot here in Ontario just how well bred alot are. Go to Kitchener. Quite a few are going through the auction these days. Some not even making it through the sale, but being shipped out through the night. Very sad indeed.

And yes, there are groups here that are trying to re-home OTTB's. There are many that are quite happy to have them as show horses, or riding horses, and some even as pasture pets.