KING PLAUDIT (1916) Why an influence on various breeds?

Jorge · Moderator Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 5484

It seems that KING PLAUDIT was a great influence on various breeds.
My question: Why?
Thanks for your comments.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/king+plaudit

Jorge · Moderator Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 5484

http://www.pedigreequery.com/king+plaudit

Elles · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject:

Maybe he was an army remount stallion?

Elles · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject:

Yes, he was: http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=%22king+plaudit%22+remount&meta=
He can be found in de pedigree of many Quarter horses so that is what made me think of the remount service.

Diane · Moderator Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 798 Location: SoCal

Jorge my uncles family had a palomino stallion that was a grandson of King Plaudit. His name was Cimarron, very deep golden pal color who unfortunately had fertility issues and did not sire many offspring. He was used as a parade horse and had a fan base that was so wide he got fan mail from a young girl from England. That girl grew up and her son became my cousin's husband. How's that for King Plaudit's influence !

Linda_d · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:52 am Post subject:

King Plaudit TB was one of the stallions that the great old time western horse breeder, Coke Roberds, used in his breeding program (along with a palomino, Old Fred, and Peter McCue, a registered TB that was actually a half-bred QH) long before there were registries to say what color patterns were acceptable.

One of the earliest horses that Roberds used was a stallion called "The Circus Horse", which was probably an Appaloosa. Back in those days, Appys with minimal coloring were often called "roans", and some of them were actually registered with the AQHA as "roans". This sometimes resulted in what were called "out-crop" Appaloosas.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/wapiti2
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/flossie3

Jorge, you will love another Roberds stallion, Old Fred, because of his sabino/splash traits: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/old+fred. He also added palomino.

Because of these two stallions, Roberds broodmares contained palominos, Appaloosas, and horses carrying sabino/splash genes. Roberds ranched in western Colorado, and a lot of ranchers in Colorado and northern New Mexico used his horses in their breeding programs, including the Peavys and Hank Weiscamp, so the genes got "spread around" in that area.

King Plaudit TB sired two very important horses:

Plaudette, m 31 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/old+fred, dam of the World Champion Running QH Maddons Bright Eyes as well as the important Appaloosa sire, Bright Eyes Brother...

Plaudit, s 30 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/plaudit3, sire of many palominos, including the excellent old time runner and sire, Question Mark

Very Happy

BTW, for a quick "fix" for your sabino "addiction", check out one of Maddon's Bright Eyes' foals:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bright+red3 He had about as much white as the AQHA allowed until very recently.

pedigree@cwnet.com · Maiden Special Weight Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

Linda D.

PRIMERO (TB) was the stallion that Roberds used in those very early years...ARAB (Ap), PRIMERO (TB), OLD FRED (QH) in that order...

I'm wondering if you are the person who posted a note for Roberds ARAB's sire THE CIRCUS HORSE on the ABDB that he was owned by the Tammens of Colorado?

Pat

pedigree@cwnet.com · Maiden Special Weight Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

Jorge...

If you will email me privately...I will email you my file on KING PLAUDIT.

Pat

Linda_d · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:37 am Post subject:

Toccet02 · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:50 am Post subject:

pedigree@cwnet.com · Maiden Special Weight Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

Linda D.

I'm just trying to locate the person who put up notes about THE CIRCUS HORSE...which were deleted last week. They were untrue. They took my research on my family and put it in their words...and made it as a "true statement".

There is no documentation that THE CIRCUS HORSE was owned by the Sells-Floto Circus. My Mothers Uncle Harry (Tammen) w/his partner owned this circus.

I have been researching pedigrees of horses of many breeds including the Appaloosa since 1967...and would love to be able to link my family to ARAB thru THE CIRCUS HORSE. As yet...zip zip zero.

Pat

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pedigree@cwnet.com · Maiden Special Weight Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

KING PLAUDIT (TB) was a US Remount Stallion. He was turned over to the US Remount to use as a breeding stallion to upgrade horses from draft to riding types for the US. Cavalry in the early years.

Pat

pedigree@cwnet.com · Maiden Special Weight Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

As said before, KING PLAUDIT was bred to all types of mares from draft to riding type.

He had a 1922 chestnut colt named APPLAUSE whose dam was a Registered Suffolk mare. Unfortunately her name or registration number are not given in the Stud Book. This colt was bred by C.C. Stillman, Cornwall, N.Y. Stillman was a civilian Remount Agent and stood KING PLAUDIT before he went to Colorado.

Compliments of Pat

PM MEFFERD Pedigree Research
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pedigree@cwnet.com · Maiden Special Weight Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 142

C.C. Stillman...was the President of the Morgan Horse Club from1909 - 1926. He also bred Suffolk Punch drafts. He crossed US Remount stallions on some of his registered Morgan and Suffolk horses. They made fine coach horses.

Sorry...I know this has nothing to do with Thoroughbred pedigree's. I could go on and on...

Pat

pedigree@cwnet.com · Maiden Special Weight Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 142