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Jorge Moderator

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Following the same rationale posted regarding appaloosas, the same applies here regarding champagnes:
Right now, is there any Champagne-Thoroughbred strain waiting for the 9th consecutive Thoroughbred generation to occurr (English rules)? At least let's identify the most advanced aspirant and his/her status. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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You don't have to be a breeder to keep an eye on any bay or brown Thoroughbred sporting brown leg markings instead of black ones.
Just keep looking!  |
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Jorge Moderator

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Jorge wrote: | You don't have to be a breeder to keep an eye on any bay or brown Thoroughbred sporting brown leg markings instead of black ones.
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DITTO  |
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Jorge Moderator

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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Let's search for an authentic champagne Thoroughbred! |
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure how to put this other than THERE ARE NO CHAMPAGNE THOROUGHBREDS. _________________ Check out my Equine Genetics blog! Updated April 25th with Splashed White!!!
http://equinegenetics.blogspot.com/ |
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Jorge Moderator

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:50 am Post subject: |
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In the sixth paragraph of the following article,
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/horses/stories/2002-07-01-white-horse.htm the text reads:
“Breeding the Race Horse, published in 1958, was considered the Thoroughbred industry's most authoritative work on bloodlines. In it Federico Tesio had stated unequivocally that white Thoroughbreds were an impossibility.”
The great Italian and esteemed connoisseur was not immune to committing bulk errors, specially when attempting rigid dictums “carved on stone”. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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The gene that causes white in thoroughbreds is completely different than the gene that causes Champagne. It mutates FAR FAR FAR more frequently. There are over 13 different white mutations, with potentially LOTS and LOTS more.
There is ONE champagne mutation. Just one. It does NOT mutate regularly, and if you are going to start "looking" for a champagne TB you might as well start looking for a turquoise one. _________________ Check out my Equine Genetics blog! Updated April 25th with Splashed White!!!
http://equinegenetics.blogspot.com/ |
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Linda_d Starters Handicap
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Unless champagne in the AQHA, Paint, or other breeds came from TBs, I think the only way you get a champagne TB is if there's a mutation that produces the champagne color -- and that mutation would probably NOT test exactly the same as champagne associated with other breeds, so it probably would NOT be found.
The chances of some non-TB champagne colored stallion covering a TB mare, the resulting foal being champagne and being slipped into the studbook as well as good enough to be used in a TB breeding program and thus spreading his/her champagne gene through the breed seems too remote to be realistic, especially since the advent of DNA testing. _________________ "you cannot be brilliant if you cannot run" -- bdw0617 |
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