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Sailor Kenshin Starters Handicap

Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Posts: 606
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:50 am Post subject: |
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He sooo looks roan to me. Yet PQ has his as 'brown,' last time I checked, not even 'bay.'
Is there footage of that race? It has to be the ONE BC race I missed. _________________ Somebody bet on the gray! |
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Linda_d Starters Handicap
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 519 Location: Jamestown, NY
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Accphotography has it right. He's a rabicano who happens to look very much like a genetic roan. Years ago, before we understood so much about genetics, he'd probably be called a roan (or even a gray).
A genetic roan would never have even a minimal coontail, however, and his is hardly that. I think it's called a "Gulastra plume".
That his dam is noted for being loudly marked and that other members of her family produce loudly marked horses makes it unlikely that he's a mutation. _________________ "you cannot be brilliant if you cannot run" -- bdw0617 |
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BookieBuster Maiden Special Weight
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Jorge Moderator

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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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There is a very revealing angle of LUCKY CHAPPY at frame 2:30/3:10 (actually from frame 2:30 to 2:35). |
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Sailor Kenshin Starters Handicap

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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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THANKS!
Dohh... I had Excaper in that race. How could I forget? _________________ Somebody bet on the gray! |
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Jorge Moderator

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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Whenever I think about HAPPY CHAPPY another horse already referenced here comes to my mind because the phenotype of this other horse is as strange and similar to HAPPY CHAPPY except that this one has a chestnut base. I am referring to the horse appearing
on page 6 under the name SHOWMETHEMOOLAH at the following thread:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24198&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75
Let me try to post his photo below, but if not, please go to the aforementioned reference.
and see the photo (Hope someone may assist us here with the photo).
[quote="TrueColours"] "Showmethemoolah"
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Sailor Kenshin Starters Handicap

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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Amazing!
What's he listed as? _________________ Somebody bet on the gray! |
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Linda_d Starters Handicap
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 519 Location: Jamestown, NY
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Showmethemoolah almost looks like an Appy with that "hip blanket"! _________________ "you cannot be brilliant if you cannot run" -- bdw0617 |
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Jorge Moderator

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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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I remember that the pedigree of Showmethemoolah was available
here in the pedigree database. But today I was looking for his name
to make available his pedigree and cannot find it here, or at any other ordinary official source. Perehaps Lucy can assist us here and clarify why the absence. |
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CountRaja Maiden Special Weight

Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 152 Location: Lexington, KY
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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How handsome is he???
. . . and the "Shack" just for good measure
 _________________ Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat. |
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Jorge Moderator

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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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CountRaja, Thanks for those quite interesting photos of LUCKY CHAPPY
As per "SHOW ME THE MOOLAH", (not "SHOWMETHEMOOLAH") "mystery" solved!
SHOW ME THE MOOLAH (Chestnut G 1997) by Cutlass Reality out of Sparkle Plenty Too, by Cari County, out of Heres Now, by Nanak
http://www.pedigreequery.com/show+me+the+moolah
Note under his pedigree:
Owner: Tom Billick, Joel Dashut, Lee Fjellman, et al,
Breeder: Carol A. Lingenfelter & Harris Farms Inc.
State Bred: CA
Winnings: 44 Starts: 8 - 6 - 11, $128,625
Born: March 28, 1997.
Sports lots of 'Bend Or' spots and rabicano characteristics in a pattern that is reminiscent of an appaloosa blanket. |
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BookieBuster Maiden Special Weight
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| CountRaja - when and where were those photos taken? Was that at Churchill Downs during Breeders' Cup week? |
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CountRaja Maiden Special Weight

Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 152 Location: Lexington, KY
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Sure was _________________ Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat. |
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summerhorse Breeder's Cup Winner

Joined: 26 Oct 2005 Posts: 2095 Location: Panama City, FL
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the pictures!! _________________ Every mighty oak was once an acorn that stood its ground. |
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Jorge Moderator

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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Lets see pictures of both horses side by side:
[quote="Jorge"]
| TrueColours wrote: | "SHOW ME THE MOOLAH"
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"LUCKY CHAPPY"
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