does anyone have a derby horse yet?

bdw0617

anyone?

I don';t really like anything yet but the one horse I could see putting it together and running further is creative cause still.
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Toccet02 · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:01 am Post subject:

too early for me to make predictions, but in the flag-waving department, I like Algorithms and Sabercat. I have the latter in my fantasy stable project, and the former is half to Justin Phillip, who I also have in that stable.
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diomed · Grade III Winner Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 1107

Too early IMO. Also, of all the Bernardini's Alpha has the best "derby" pedigree IMO. Algorithms could just be a mudder or a sprinter. I am not writing Hansen off yet(unlike others). Then there is Union Rags who I don't think has a Derby pedigree(my problem is his sire) but you never know until the running is done. I really don't have a Derby horse yet and probably won't until March/April.

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bdw0617 · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject:

Every time I see Union rags I just keep thinking "Circular Quay". He just seems like a clone of that horse. very good he seems best like he will be a late closing one turn sprinter (alot like sway away).

this may very well be the year a euro wins the derby, with all of horses looking more and more like sprinters... humm
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Bast · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject:

In moving from a test of capable 3 y os with established credentials and running style to a free-for-all of young horses with a maiden win + enough earnings to get them in, the Kentucky Derby has become less a horse race and more a game of chance.

I have to admit to losing interest.
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bdw0617 · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject:

I like creative cause pedigree, both sides, I like the trainer even more and I like the fact they didn't go too hard on him as a 2YO.

if he can get back to his norfolk win, he is legit and will run all day
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Affirmed1 · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject: Union Rags for me

He was one jump short of being 2 year old champion. He looks to me like he will run farther. Smile

stancaris · Allowance Winner Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 435

I disagree with that statement-- less a horse race and more a game of chance. I think the race is still a horse race and not a game of chance. The only difference nowadays is that the usual Derby winner is a horse that breaks its maiden in Sept or Later. In olden times the Derby winner almost always broke its maiden in May, June, or July. In the last 12 years almost all Derby winners were not dual qualifiers.

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Cozzetti has the pedigree and is a late rusher who finished
very close among stakes company. But, yikes, imagine a son of the late Cozzene winning the Derby at this stage of his forgotten career. Hmmm, no so probable Question

but who knows Wink

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COZZETTI (gray/ro colt 2009)
http://www.pedigreequery.com/cozzetti

Joltman · Grade III Winner Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1110

i like Algorithms

Bernardini, inbreeding to Fappiano. Can rally late. I like

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