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Sunday Silence Moderator
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Georgerz Grade II Winner
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| That is a gray horse, no mater how white it may look. |
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Jorge Moderator

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SHOTGUN WILLIS (gray G 2006) http://www.pedigreequery.com/shotgun+willis
SHOTGUN WILLIS is arguably one, or perhaps, the most impressive "pure-white-looking" genuine gray Thoroughbred seen in many many years.
From the photo, he even looks "whiter" than VIGORS (1973) and HANSEN (2009). Quite impressive.
In addition to his impressive genotype, there is another angle worth mentioning. Note that his maternal gray lineage comes via a very rare
strain from the same family of The Tetrarch, but not from him. Note that
Gris Vitesse is a very common ancestress among reknown great Thoroughbreds, thanks to her non-gray son (by Roberto), but this is the first time that I come across a 21st century gray strain coming from Gris Vitesse. Very interesting find! Would really like to see this cross being repeated. |
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Derby Lyn Restricted Stakes Winner

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xfactor fan Breeder's Cup Winner
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| He may have two copies of the grey gene. They tend to grey out faster than horses with one copy. He's very white looking. |
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Sunday Silence Moderator
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Georgerz"]That is a gray horse, no mater how white it may look.[/quote]
I know he's grey.  |
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sstacy19 Allowance Winner

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:42 am Post subject: |
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I love him! I put his name into a google search and found out tht he is named after a strip club (or at least shares the name with one lol) _________________ "The blood runs hot in the Thoroughbred and the courage runs deep.
In the best of them, pride is limitless. This is their heritage and
they carry it like a banner. What they have, they use."
---C. W. Anderson |
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Sailor Kenshin Starters Handicap

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I know my ignorance is showing, but again, the genetic difference between gray and white is...???? _________________ Somebody bet on the gray! |
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xfactor fan Breeder's Cup Winner
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Grey horses are born with functioning color cells. The action of the grey gene causes the cell to go into overdrive and produce more pigment than normal, and "burns out" the cells that create pigment. This process takes some time, and the hairs grow in white (no pigment), turning the coat progressively lighter over time.
A white horse (and there are several different genetic ways this can happen) has no pigment producing cells, and is usually keeps the color that they are born with.
Also white horses will have pink skin, and grey's dark skin. |
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Sailor Kenshin Starters Handicap

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! _________________ Somebody bet on the gray! |
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HeadlessHorseman Restricted Stakes Winner

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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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He sure looks WHITE to me....NOT one bit of color even in his tail....
He's a pretty boy...
I still wouldn't bet on him
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xfactor fan Breeder's Cup Winner
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Given advances in genetics, it lends new meaning to the old kid's joke, " What color is George Washington's white horse?" |
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