FROG JUICE (dermorphin)

[casallc]

"Racing regulators kept hearing the reports: trainers were giving their horses a powerful performance-enhancing potion drawn from the backs of a type of South American frog.
But for months postrace testing could not find the substance, a painkiller far more powerful than morphine. Then a lab in the Denver area tweaked its testing procedure, and in recent weeks more than 30 horses from four states have tested positive for the substance, dermorphin, which is suspected of helping horses run faster"
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/20/sports/horse-racing-discovers-new-drug-problem-one-linked-to-frogs.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print

As long as ANY raceday medications are allowed, people will continue to try to beat the system. Morphine and synthetic morphines will make horses run faster than they want to, the pain killing effect is not the primary reason for use. It is hard for people to understand that a drug that actually would slow down a human, will make a horse run faster - but it does. Horses and humans react differently to different drugs. Lasix only makes these drugs harder to detect.
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[Brogan]

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[ageecee]

You think after what happened to Christophe Clemente and the year suspension he got would of been enough for these knuckleheads to not even try this drug on there horses.

I sure hope they come down hard on these trainers. One trainer was using this stuff for the last 2 years.

[bdw0617]

believe it or not and i don't know if it's the same thing but i know people who lick this stuff and get very very high. it's not something you see every day but it's don
i know exactly what frog you are talking about there is a documentary of the world deadtlist animals on netflix i watched a few months ago that talks about these frogs. It's a genus of Frogs that secrete this poison out of their glands. Even then, the various species of frogs have various potency of drug in their gland, like I believe the red one is relatively harmless while the orange one is considered to be one of the deadliest animals on the planet and are what the azetcs used to to tip their arrows with and would instantly kill a human. i believe this one is somewhere in the middle.

i don't know if you have ever seen the movie Apocalypo or not, the Mel Gibson movie he made about the incas a few years ago (great movie by the way best movie i saw all of last year) , there is a scene where jaguar paw is fighting off the tribe of i believe incas and he is using this frog to tip the arrows with a substance. this is that frog.
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[TJ]

[TJ]

[ageecee]

Yea TJ u correct it was Biancone my bad.

[griff]

did the track have a ban on cobra venom ? Or do they get to ban anything they find and don't like ??

same with frog juice? Does the track specifically ban frog juice or again, can they just decide being in possession of frog juice, any frog juice, is not allowed and can ban the trainer or owner that has any in his possession?

I don't think our law enforcement officials have that kind of authority when dealing with new artificial designe drugs like spice and such.


griff
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[Dave C]

Griff - since the penalty is a civil, not criminal, penalty they have very broad scope for banning the use, and possession, of compounds that they classify as performance enhancing. Even within that broad scope, they have to use scientific evidence and a reasonable process if they don't want the courts to through out their decisions.

[TJ]

[xfactor fan]

If a trainer used snake or frog juice, and a jockey is hurt when the horse goes down, can the jockey go after the trainer? Or the local District Attorney if a jockey is killed?

[casallc]

[TJ]

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