Rebel stakes/San felipe Stakes

follygirl · 2yo Maiden Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 79 Location: NJ

The Rebel Stakes with Afleet Alex and Rockport Harbor is about to go off in 8 minutes; The San Felipe with a bunch of Derby contenders will go off at about 7:15 EST in case anyone is interested--

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llbean · Grade III Winner Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 1032

Greater Good gave a great performance to beat Rockport Harbor; the sprinter whose brother Unforgetable Max was also a sprinter (how much of a pedigree guru do you have to be to see that? And yet the people who picked him in the Derby Future Wager evidently didn't) finished either last or second to last.

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bcassidy · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject:

What happened to Afleet Alex? Why didn't he run in the rebel? I just tried to pull up the results but I couldn't find him or a reason he didn't run.
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follygirl · 2yo Maiden Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 79 Location: NJ

Afleet Alex ran. He just didn't do anything!
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Sam · Chef de Race: Intermediate Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 4194

halo · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject:

[quote="llbean"]Greater Good gave a great performance to beat Rockport Harbor; the sprinter whose brother Unforgetable Max was also a sprinter (how much of a pedigree guru do you have to be to see that? And yet the people who picked him in the Derby Future Wager evidently didn't) finished either last or second to last.

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Unforgettable Max is also graded stakes placed twice at 1 1/8 miles. They are out of a Hawkster mare, who is out of a *Hawaii mare. Hard to find more stamina influences than that nowadays. Northern Afleet also won around 2 turns. I suppose you called Smarty Jones and Funny Cide sprinters, too.

Sysonby · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject:

>>Greater Good gave a great performance to beat Rockport Harbor.<<

Is Intidab a stamina influence now--or Phone Trick? How about a second dam who was a champion sprinter?

Shepdog · Newborn Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 9

Well, since I'm a Rockport Harbor fan, I've been waiting for this race for a while.

I have to say... I'm pretty impressed with him. I'm glad he got the race under him, and considering all the layoffs and foot issues; plus that stumble and rush from the gate at the opening - he actually did better than I expected him to do this time out. Smile

llbean · Grade III Winner Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 1032

henthorn · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:03 pm Post subject:

I missed the race, but the Equibase report says Afleet Alex suddenly stopped. I'm guessing he bled or flipped his palate, or possible injury. Hope he's okay.
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StrawberryFelidos · Allowance Winner Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 425

From what I hear Consolidator won his race in record time (1:40.11 ) and by 6 1/2 lengths, whereas Greater Good won his race in a rather slow time (1:44 4/5) by 1/2 length... It's obvious which of those was the more impressive victory today,yet strangely enough I admire Good's record over Consolidator as a whole. Consolidator seems to have his "on" days (today, Breeder's Futurity) in which he whips everyone, and his "off" days (San Vicente, BC Juvie) where he zones out, whereas Good seems to be pretty much in the "on" gear. I guess it's not the how they do it but the consistancy that I like the most.
But then again Consolidator was pretty damn fine today, wasn't he? Wink

I guess it's all moot anyway, pure speculation until they race one another!
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StrawberryFelidos · Allowance Winner Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 425

By the way, anyone seen the picture of the San Filepe win on the Horsephotos homepage? I think I'll call it "Consolidator Posessed" Laughing

LSB · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:58 pm Post subject:

The Santa Anita track--where Consolidator won his race today--was turning in fast times all day. Apparently a MSW winner had come close to setting a track record earlier on the card.

I thought Rockport Harbor did a great job in the Rebel. He was probably short for the race, then stumbled at the start, and still managed to run creditably. I was very impressed by his performance.

citation011 · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:20 am Post subject: Not so Afleet Alex-Rebel Stakes

What happened??? I watched it in person today- It appears to be a bunch of derby pretenders. Wow--All the hype about the big three 3 year olds at Oaklawn>>>> The most unexpected was Rockports suprise effort -very impressive, but he has a long way to go to be a factor in the Derby. Afleet Alex???? He looked great putting the saddle on- but thats about it! Congrats to GG- but I'm guessing the BSF will be not much better than the 85 he had in the Southwest.

el camino · Allowance Winner Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 479

I think Greater Good was very impressive because of the slow pace. He was/is a deep closer who needs some pace and there was none. He still was able to get to the wire. He also showed some tactical speed breaking well and getting good position from the outside. Looks like a serious derby candidate and 1 1/4 horse. Giacomo was also impressive as he probable was close to the stakes record as well as Consolidator blasted it by 1 1/5 seconds.