Pedigree Query

The only way that frame overo is going to become widespread among Thoroughbreds is the same way that other once "unfashionable" colors or markings became common in the Thoroughbred gene pool: a successful race horse carrying the gene has to go on to become a dominant race sire. The Tetrarc...

Jorge would have been ecstatic over this! He loved his grays!

Mr. Prospector and Northern Dancer dominate the classics far more than Secretariat or Buckpasser. As far as elite mares Almahmoud , Somethingroyal, Rough Shod II, and La Troienne are in a lot of pedigrees. Agreed. One could argue that from the quality of the mares both Secretariat and Buckpasser go...

DDT wrote: "Genes located on the X chromosome play a minor role in elite performance and broodmare sire success." You, like Pan Zareta, have no proof that the above is correct. You have been told many times that a statement like that is an OPINION, NOT A FACT. Actually, Pan Zareta gave a ...

This isn't a Thoroughbred, but this horse is incredibly inbred, not just up close but even the one line that might have brought in "outcross" blood is inbred! The fifth dam, Plaudits Babe, is a full sister to the Maddon's Bright Eyes, the dam of Bright Bar, the sire of Shutter Shy. Johnny Boone is a...

How kind you are, Sylvie!

Yesterday's winner of the $1 million Rainbow Futurity at Ruidoso: MS FIRST PRIZE ROSE (QH): http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ms+first+prize+rose She's actually got even more inbreeding as you get further back. Most of her lines go back to Three Bars TB, Top Deck TB, and Leo. 21 of her 32 fifth gener...

Since we're doing "oldies", here's the guy who has the record for the most wins: Kingston.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/kingston2

He won 89 races and was out of the money only 4 times. After racing for 9 straight years, he went on to become a 2 time leading sire!!!

DAVE'S FRIEND: http://www.pedigreequery.com/daves+friend Stakes winner of 35 races, 3 to 11, more than $1 million. Won 17 stakes races, placed in 21 others, against the country's best sprinters. Note the inbreeding of SPY SONG, to whom he is inbred 3 x 3. His sire was a $3,000 claimer. Yeah, but to...

Buckpasser and Secretariat both stood at Claiborne where they received the finest books of mares known to mankind. Both of them were known as "filly sires" and it should come as no surprise that their daughters, as broodmares, are also top-class producers. If DR. FAGER had received the equivalent q...

Pan Zareta: Then how come we do not find any other great stallions in the X passing position of the top 20 broodmare sires with the frequency of Buckpasser (close up in pedigrees) over the last 5 years? Mr. Prospector, Northern Dancer, Affirmed, Seattle Slew, and a great many others are not frequen...

Kleberg used the same inbreeding strategies with ALL his horses. He also developed the Santa Gertrudes cattle using them. Check out this Kleberg bred, one that he lost for a $1500 claiming price: http://www.pedigreequery.com/stymie And this wonderful champion filly from 25 years later: http://www.p...

....As for Jim T ... why is it that the "breeders" that try this kind of inbreeding seem to almost inevitably inbreed to horses that probably shouldn't have been left stallions to begin with? :roll: Well it WAS in Texas in 1927 :lol: There may not have been a lot of options. Jim T's pedigree, thoug...

HTA inherited his inbreeding from 6 different sire lines. No he didn't. Genetically, there are only two sire lines in the modern TB, Whalebone (1807) and non-Whalebone. They differ only at a single letter in the genetic code on the male-specific portion of the Y chromosome. Females don't have that....

There are horses in some small part of South America,in Brazil or Argentina I think, that have white spots that make them look almost like Appaloosas but they come from solid parents and don't reproduce the color, so scientists believe that the spots come from environmental factors. I think we disc...