SIRE LINE REVIVAL

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Fri May 27, 2005 4:30 pm

To Timber: Ellsworth was hot to trot to purchase Nasrullah, but whe A. B. Bull Hancock got wind of the deal, Bull came in the back door and went out the front door with Nasrullah before Ellsworth had a chance to catch his breath.

A. B. Bull Hancock was a master breeder and got to the top and stayed there with quality bloodstock. After Bull passed away his farm went down, as it is still struggling today.

Trainer Ray Bell grandson of Ray Bell that arranged the importation of Nasrullah, Khaled and Alibhai told me the above true story.

Timber · Postby **Timber** » Fri May 27, 2005 4:37 pm

Hmmm. Not the way I heard it, but I wasn't there.

Double_Jay · Postby **Double_Jay** » Fri May 27, 2005 5:12 pm

madelyn wrote:Louis, you must mean FALLOW, not follow.

Thanks! Boy, was I confused.

Double_Jay · Postby **Double_Jay** » Fri May 27, 2005 5:18 pm

henthorn wrote:Domino's Colin line went seven generations until Broad Brush came on the scene. Now that he's gone, one of Broad Brush's sons could reestablish the Domino>Colin line.

What do you mean by Broad Brush being "gone"?

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Fri May 27, 2005 5:37 pm

Broad Brush has been pensioned or passed on.

yukidragon · Postby **yukidragon** » Fri May 27, 2005 10:30 pm

(Mr Brilliant 1982 model), wont last to many more years if that long.
May be the last one, that traces to (Spy Song's) male tail an on to Domino line.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Sat May 28, 2005 5:43 am

Its sad to see the dominant sire lines of the past die in our current generation. When you are older your carry many fond memories of them in their hay day.

jellac · Postby **jellac** » Sat May 28, 2005 8:08 am

Rick wrote:

The last major source of the Hyperion male line (Deputed Testamony) was pensioned this year.

FYI - Though he may certainly not be considered a "major source"....yet.....we have a very nice son of Deputed Testamony, Deputed Duke, standing here in Texas to sport horse breeders and breed to race owners alike. A link to his website is below:

http://www.spirit-horse.us/deputed-duke.htm

henthorn · Postby **henthorn** » Sat May 28, 2005 1:08 pm

Jellac, he sure is an accomplished showman and jumper, and such a beauty. And he has a lot of good old distance lines close up. Nice pictures, too.

Khaled · Postby **Khaled** » Sat May 28, 2005 2:59 pm

louis finochio wrote:To Timber: Ellsworth was hot to trot to purchase Nasrullah, but whe A. B. Bull Hancock got wind of the deal, Bull came in the back door and went out the front door with Nasrullah before Ellsworth had a chance to catch his breath.

Trainer Ray Bell grandson of Ray Bell that arranged the importation of Nasrullah, Khaled and Alibhai told me the above true story.

Nasrullah's owner, Joseph McGrath, did not want to sell Narullah at all. Nasrullah was an excellent young stallion and had all the signs of the next big hit. He stalled with Ellsworth when Ellsworth came calling. He gave Ellsworth the quote of $70,000, hoping the AZ cowboy would gag on the price. However, Ellsworth accepted. When he got to Ireland, Joseph McGrath was less than willing to sell. This is when Ellsworth went looking for another good horse. Ellsworth's ideal horse was The Tetrarch. He wanted a horse with speed and acceleration. This is the reason he considered both Khaled and Nasrullah. Both had The Tetrarch up close and were speedy.

The deal was finalized when Ellsworth paid $160,000 for Khaled in 1948. This was the same year that Hancock started negotiations for Narullah, which closed the next year.

The reason that Hancock got Nasrullah instead of Ellsworth is really a matter of timing and money. When Hancock's agent came calling, McGrath gave the agent a ridiculously high price (price that would be rejected). Not knowing the agent represented Hancock with the finacial backing of many weathy Americans, his offer was accepted. The price was too good to pass up in those times, and Nasrullah was sold. The final price was $340,000. This final price alone explains the best reason why Hancock bought Nasrullah instead of Ellsworth.

Though Nasrullah was the better of the two stallions, Khaled held his own quite well.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Sat May 28, 2005 4:25 pm

Trainer Ray Bell said that Nasrullah was the leading stallion in IRE for 2 years before being imported to the US, Is that true Khaled?

Double_Jay · Postby **Double_Jay** » Sat May 28, 2005 5:59 pm

louis finochio wrote:Broad Brush has been pensioned or passed on.

Pensioned, I could see. Does anyone know for sure one way or another that he's died? We've lost so many stallions in the last few years I might have read and then forgotten it. He was a big favorite of mine. Saw him in 2001.

Khaled · Postby **Khaled** » Mon May 30, 2005 11:15 am

louis finochio wrote:Trainer Ray Bell said that Nasrullah was the leading stallion in IRE for 2 years before being imported to the US, Is that true Khaled?

I am not sure about 2 years, but I do know that Nasrullah was the leading sire for 1 year (I think it was in 1948). He might have been leading sire again after he left IRE. Also I think he was the leading sire in England, too, though I am not sure.

More reason why McGrath did not want to sell him.

Rick · Postby **Rick** » Mon May 30, 2005 11:28 am

Broad Brush was pensioned this year. As far as I know he is still alive.

Pete · Postby **Pete** » Mon May 30, 2005 11:29 am

Hi,

Broad Brush was having difficulty completing in 2004. He was willing

He was in great distress trying to ejaculate.

He's pensioned, not dead as far as I know.

Pete