Hi Was invited here as I own Catch a Bird

brumbyjil · Postby **brumbyjil** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:02 am

cool I have those ones as well.

cheers

naomi

TrueColours · Postby **TrueColours** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:12 am

Hey Naomi!

SO glad that you wandered over here! And glad to hear that Baron continues to do so well

Thanks for posting the updated pictures of him as well - talk to you soon!

Donna

Arctic Cielo · Postby **Arctic Cielo** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:14 am

Glad you made it Naomi! Thanks for the pics. Its great to see he is doing well and I am glad he is in good hands now. That is so cool that you started riding him again! I was surprised to see you when I logged on this morning.

Nerd · Postby **Nerd** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:40 am

Wow, thanks for providing us with an update on our favorite old stripey man, and thanks for taking such great care of him

!!!

Nessa · Postby **Nessa** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:01 am

Thank you so much for rescuing Baron. I'd hate to think of him living his last days in that condition. Some folks make you want to wack'em upside the head with a full bedpan.

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:49 am

The clause about the prior owner getting to take any foals that have the same markings is a hoot. His markings are bay brindle. His odd colored foals are marked like classic roans, and are not marked like Baron.

Thanks for rescuing the fine old gentleman.

Bondama · Postby **Bondama** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:12 pm

Thank you so much for rescuing Baron. I'd hate to think of him living his last days in that condition. Some folks make you want to wack'em upside the head with a full bedpan.

What she said!

Blessings,

brumbyjil · Postby **brumbyjil** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:20 pm

wow guys

thankyou so much for your support. hey Donna good to see you too and artic heheh how could i resist the invite.

Will keep you updated with pics as we go along wish there was a way to show you the silly dvd that was taken of him at the one day event as he is so funny going over tiny jumps

cheers

naomi

summerhorse · Postby **summerhorse** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:52 am

From what I gather from talks with genetic experts he isn't likely to ever pass on his stripey coloration. What is valuable about him is his ability to produce roan looking and producing foals. To get around that clause I'd offer him at public stud. Then you wouldn't own any stripey foals!! But include a clause in THEIR contracts that you get first refusal or partners in any roan foals. it would be nice to take some DNA samples from him from different areas (like his bay and his white stripes, blood, tissue, etc) to see what is going on there. It would be a shame to lose that roan coloration.

There is a warmblood stallion Natal Clasi who is like his twin and they oddly enough share a common ancestor (through Fair Trial I think, they both have sons of Fair Trial in the bottom line in almost the same place). I thought it was kind of odd for two stallions on two different continents to have a common ancestor and look so much alike! (he was from South America but is in FL now).

Arctic Cielo · Postby **Arctic Cielo** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:56 am

He is a one in a million (if not more) thoroughbred.

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:47 pm

Dear Summerhorse,

According to my records FAIR TRIAL is indeed a sabino source.

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:31 pm

Dear Brumbyjil,

May the Good Lord Bless you very dearly.
When I read your thread recalling your non-coat-colour motivation and interest in saving Catch A Bird I came to the conclussion that you were really inspired and chosen to take good care of him. Good care is what he was really needing and that is the more important part here. Thats the reason why you were chosen by the Almighty.

We all appreciate your devoted efforts in pro of his well-being. Keep on the good work.

But please please just keep this in mind: if there is any new chance to breed from him again using a non-white-marked mate, please don't miss such a privileged opportunity. The authentic Roan (R gene) coat colour was one of the originating coat colours among the Thoroughbred breed. But that was during the 1700's and after that the colour vanished from the Breed due to lack of luck and lack of interest in preserving it. Now you may have the privilege of re-inserting this colour into the Thoroughbred breed. I know that Catch A Bird sired 4 roan cases but unfortunately all have vanished from the public and their status is uncertain.

I sincerely wish you all the Best.

Thanks for all your comments.

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brumbyjil · Postby **brumbyjil** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:25 pm

xfactor fan wrote:The clause about the prior owner getting to take any foals that have the same markings is a hoot. His markings are bay brindle. His odd colored foals are marked like classic roans, and are not marked like Baron.

Thanks for rescuing the fine old gentleman.

just to confirm this what she made me sign was that any form of striping roaning or ticking and she had the right to come and assess if she thought it was something she wanted. I had an all out fight one day over the phone with her and she backed off and said that i would be allowed half the ownership and i thought #$*#*#* no one is going to take anything from me that i have poured money into from both sides so is kinda just easier not to try and have a foal but I cant help it if he jumps a fence and finds himself fertile!!!!!

cheers

naomi

Arctic Cielo · Postby **Arctic Cielo** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:21 am

I would assume if anything she would have to reimburse the money you have into the foal. She would not be able to just take it.
Is her contract even legal?

summerhorse · Postby **summerhorse** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:03 am

Yeah she shouldn't be able to take anything without giving a fair market value for it. These aren't dogs with the pick of the litter option. But her clause wouldn't cover outside mares' foals. So that would be the way to go. Any idea where his roan offspring (and theirs) are now?