I don't think I've heard of many great German racehorses. I know about Lomitas from "The Man Who Listens to Horses," but that's it. Am I missing something? Is racing not that big in Germany? I'd be interested to learn about the racing industry over there or great German racers.
Suggestions?
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Hi,
this is only a "shortlist" and out of memory of Top German Race Horses and the opinions, who are "the Greatest" are different.
Ferro
Pergolese
Fels, Fervor, Faust (died), Fabula, Fels, all are sons/daughter of Festa
Alchimist
Oleander
Nereide (filly, unbeaten)
Schwarzgold (filly)
Magnat
Birkhahn
Ticino
Orsini
Nebos
Konigsstuhl
Star Appeal (won Arc)
Alpenkonig
Lombard
Kandia (filly)
Acatenango
Lando (won Japan Cup)
Best regards, Bettina
this is only a "shortlist" and out of memory of Top German Race Horses and the opinions, who are "the Greatest" are different.
Ferro
Pergolese
Fels, Fervor, Faust (died), Fabula, Fels, all are sons/daughter of Festa
Alchimist
Oleander
Nereide (filly, unbeaten)
Schwarzgold (filly)
Magnat
Birkhahn
Ticino
Orsini
Nebos
Konigsstuhl
Star Appeal (won Arc)
Alpenkonig
Lombard
Kandia (filly)
Acatenango
Lando (won Japan Cup)
Best regards, Bettina
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Look at www.galopp-sieger.de !
There is a huge amount of information referring results of top-class races with a focus on German racing and there is a chapter "Stammtafeln" (family tables), where you can see ancestry/descendants in a new way of presentation (males and females in same table over 4 generations).
But be careful: server is not the speediest and the presentation of descendants of influencial horses may take some time (f.e. search of Ticino shows more than 1,000 descendants in 4 generations).
This website is still in the making and data is added continuously.
Bettina gave a good "short list" - but there is a steady success of German bred horses in ínternational races in recent times, f.e.:
Kazzia, Sabiango, Paolini, Hurricane Run, Shirocco ... Quijano (gelding by Acatenango) won 3 good races at Dubai in recent weeks and is still unbeaten in 10 races.
Meanwhile Monsun is an important influence as a sire in Europe.
Nevertheless German tb-industry is in a deep economic recession. The breeding population is only about 2,100 mares and some 70 sires. There were only 1,800 races run in 2006 with some 3,300 horses in training (in comparison to the 1995ties, when there were some 3,500 races and some 4,600 horses in training).
Important breeders (foremost Schlenderhan Stud and Baron Ullmann) let their horses train and run in France.
There is a huge amount of information referring results of top-class races with a focus on German racing and there is a chapter "Stammtafeln" (family tables), where you can see ancestry/descendants in a new way of presentation (males and females in same table over 4 generations).
But be careful: server is not the speediest and the presentation of descendants of influencial horses may take some time (f.e. search of Ticino shows more than 1,000 descendants in 4 generations).
This website is still in the making and data is added continuously.
Bettina gave a good "short list" - but there is a steady success of German bred horses in ínternational races in recent times, f.e.:
Kazzia, Sabiango, Paolini, Hurricane Run, Shirocco ... Quijano (gelding by Acatenango) won 3 good races at Dubai in recent weeks and is still unbeaten in 10 races.
Meanwhile Monsun is an important influence as a sire in Europe.
Nevertheless German tb-industry is in a deep economic recession. The breeding population is only about 2,100 mares and some 70 sires. There were only 1,800 races run in 2006 with some 3,300 horses in training (in comparison to the 1995ties, when there were some 3,500 races and some 4,600 horses in training).
Important breeders (foremost Schlenderhan Stud and Baron Ullmann) let their horses train and run in France.
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Sorry, you can't have all for nothing. Till the early 1930ties most scientific articles were written and published in German – so let’s be happy, that you won WWII.
There are some online-dictionaries and what you need to understand the listings of "Sieger großer Rennen" (winners of important/big races) are the table head-lines:
Jahr (von – bis)= year (from – to)
Rennen = name of the race
Bahn = racetrack
Land = country
Pferd = name of horse
A (Alter) = age
G (Geschlecht) = sex
Fam (Familie) = female family (= Bobinsky family number)
Abstammung / Hengst / Stute / Stutenvater = descent / sire / dam / BMS
Trainer = trainer
Reiter / Gewicht = jockey / weight carried
Starter / Status / Art = horses run / category of race / further description (f.e. 3yo mares)
Dotierung / Toto / Rennbahn = total price money / odds of winner / place of racetrack
RBNr / Zeit / Distanz = number of race in racing calendar / time / distance of race
Kommentar = comment, distances between placed runners
gegründet = (race) founded
Bes (Besitzer) = owner
Zü (Züchter) = breeder
Gestüt = stud
Sieger = winner
Platziert = placed
Listenrennen = listed race
AGL (Ausgleich) = handicap
Hindernisrennen = steeplechase
Klassische Rennen = classic race
There are some online-dictionaries and what you need to understand the listings of "Sieger großer Rennen" (winners of important/big races) are the table head-lines:
Jahr (von – bis)= year (from – to)
Rennen = name of the race
Bahn = racetrack
Land = country
Pferd = name of horse
A (Alter) = age
G (Geschlecht) = sex
Fam (Familie) = female family (= Bobinsky family number)
Abstammung / Hengst / Stute / Stutenvater = descent / sire / dam / BMS
Trainer = trainer
Reiter / Gewicht = jockey / weight carried
Starter / Status / Art = horses run / category of race / further description (f.e. 3yo mares)
Dotierung / Toto / Rennbahn = total price money / odds of winner / place of racetrack
RBNr / Zeit / Distanz = number of race in racing calendar / time / distance of race
Kommentar = comment, distances between placed runners
gegründet = (race) founded
Bes (Besitzer) = owner
Zü (Züchter) = breeder
Gestüt = stud
Sieger = winner
Platziert = placed
Listenrennen = listed race
AGL (Ausgleich) = handicap
Hindernisrennen = steeplechase
Klassische Rennen = classic race
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I am one of the persons, who stands behind the page over the german racehorses www.galopp-sieger.de and I say thanks to parlo who has communicate our page in this forum.
There is installed a new area on the page with the most famous german racehorses of all time. We try to present you the complete racing career of these horses form the beginning in small race up to the end also with the not successful starts.
http://www.galopp-sieger.de/galoppsieger/beruehmt_html
The Dates becomes completed step by step, because it is a lot of work to found all starts and put them into the database.
If we are complete with the great german races, we try to present a good overview about the europeen Group 1 races and also some group 2 and group 3 races.
We hope that you enjoy this page and find a lot of informations about the german thoroughbred and racing. It is much smaller than english or iris or american thoroughbred breeding but we have in relation to the complete volume also a big number a great horses also in comparison with the other great breeding nations of europe - and we have a very great culture to breed horses with stamina in Germany.
v. Blucher
There is installed a new area on the page with the most famous german racehorses of all time. We try to present you the complete racing career of these horses form the beginning in small race up to the end also with the not successful starts.
http://www.galopp-sieger.de/galoppsieger/beruehmt_html
The Dates becomes completed step by step, because it is a lot of work to found all starts and put them into the database.
If we are complete with the great german races, we try to present a good overview about the europeen Group 1 races and also some group 2 and group 3 races.
We hope that you enjoy this page and find a lot of informations about the german thoroughbred and racing. It is much smaller than english or iris or american thoroughbred breeding but we have in relation to the complete volume also a big number a great horses also in comparison with the other great breeding nations of europe - and we have a very great culture to breed horses with stamina in Germany.
v. Blucher
And here is a swiss-made triple-language-online-dictionary on "horse vocabulary":
http://www.reiterin.ch/l/lexikon.htm
http://www.reiterin.ch/l/lexikon.htm
Yesterday, Manduro (Monsun - Mandellicht by Be My Guest) won G3 Weatherbys Earl of Sefton Stakes (1809 m) at Newmarket in track-record-time (1:47,26 min) by 4 lgth from Speciosa (1000 Guineas-winner 2006).
What a success: a German-bred and -owned horse (trained by A. Fabre) has the record on that "holy ground".
What a success: a German-bred and -owned horse (trained by A. Fabre) has the record on that "holy ground".
Thanks - unfortunately nowadays the best German horses run abroad and the local fans won't see them on their home-tracks.
At least there seems to be a good race on Sunday at Cologne (Gerling-Preis) with Derby-/St.-Leger-winner Schiaparelli and GPvBaden-winner Prince Flori. Egerton shall race in the Ganay on Sunday 29th.
"GP der Badischen Wirtschaft" is a G2 and the major event at the Baden-Baden Spring Meeting (now "Großer Mercedes-Benz Preis).
"Preis der Dresdner Bank" was/is a sprint-race during the Hamburg Derby Meeting in June/July. At Hamburg there are two major sprint races: a LR and a G3. The names of the races change with their sponsors and that happens very often. The Dresdner Bank was once sponsor of one race and than of the other. More => www.galopp-sieger.de
At least there seems to be a good race on Sunday at Cologne (Gerling-Preis) with Derby-/St.-Leger-winner Schiaparelli and GPvBaden-winner Prince Flori. Egerton shall race in the Ganay on Sunday 29th.
"GP der Badischen Wirtschaft" is a G2 and the major event at the Baden-Baden Spring Meeting (now "Großer Mercedes-Benz Preis).
"Preis der Dresdner Bank" was/is a sprint-race during the Hamburg Derby Meeting in June/July. At Hamburg there are two major sprint races: a LR and a G3. The names of the races change with their sponsors and that happens very often. The Dresdner Bank was once sponsor of one race and than of the other. More => www.galopp-sieger.de
Thank you Parlo, I was asking because of this guy: http://www.pedigreequery.com/man+in+the+moon who can be found in the filly that I own 1/3 of: http://www.pedigreequery.com/lunar+melody Melody is probably going to race in Germany. Her first race will probably be at around August this year.