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Anky Van Grunsven is very famous here in the states. I believe she has her own like of tack or something. I dont follow much outside of TBs and basic stuff. But her collection and extention of this animal was beautiful. I loved how they zoomed in on his legs doing flying lead changes. Just perfect! A the trot in place.. is it called a Piaffe (sp?)
The only fault I saw was the horse didnt halt square at the salute.. I'm a stickler for that.
But with all the prescise movements, commands, etc.. I would just want to break free, and go gallop my Thoroughbred across a field!
The only fault I saw was the horse didnt halt square at the salute.. I'm a stickler for that.
But with all the prescise movements, commands, etc.. I would just want to break free, and go gallop my Thoroughbred across a field!
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trackgal wrote:I hate that "chin to rhe chest " thing I know horses who had to be put down because of disintegrating bone in ther necks, I believe it is called "rollkur" .
I've been privileged to work with dressage horses in various stages of their training up to and including Grand Prix since the early 80's. I've never heard of this "rollkur" issue. I'll have to look that up.
A classically trained dressage horse can, and does, often perform at the very highest levels into its late teens. In fact, they almost have to, because it takes years of very careful and methodical conditioning and training to get them there.
The 'chin to the chest' thing is known as 'being on the bit', by the way. It's not a pose. It's a reflection of the horse's balance, submission and it's optimal for communication with the rider via the bit.
Thanks for sharing that vidoe, Elles. Salinero is a world class horse with a world class rider.
I used to love dressage.. before the breeding of giant over-collected hulks (warmbloods). Now it is like Western Pleasure, high-end gaited horses (Tennessee Walkers and Saddlebreds) and what the western people call Hunter Under Saddle. It's all too exaggerated and has stolen the dignity of the horse. There is nothing natural in that exhibition.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....
trackgal.. 
Whenever I am in one of those high priced joints and all the little girls are swooning over their young good-looking "trainer" and how incredibly well he can ride (just because he can keep his legs and hands still, which most of them only dream of doing) I wonder if they would faint orgasmically if they ever went to the track for morning workouts and watched people who can REALLY ride.
Whenever I am in one of those high priced joints and all the little girls are swooning over their young good-looking "trainer" and how incredibly well he can ride (just because he can keep his legs and hands still, which most of them only dream of doing) I wonder if they would faint orgasmically if they ever went to the track for morning workouts and watched people who can REALLY ride.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....
I always rode under a dressage trainer, but I never claimed to "ride dressage." That's because all I ever did is the lower level stuff, and, at that level, what you are really supposed to be doing is to prepare a horse to be a good "riding horse."
The old definition of dressage was to make a horse "calm, supple and obedient." Nothing wrong with that, no matter what discipline, including racing, that you intend to pursue. And, I have seen a lot of horses, when ridden according to correct dressage principles, stay sound and athletic well into their teens and early twenties.
I'm not a fan of what upper level dressage has turned into today, however. Too much yanking and cranking for my taste.
The old definition of dressage was to make a horse "calm, supple and obedient." Nothing wrong with that, no matter what discipline, including racing, that you intend to pursue. And, I have seen a lot of horses, when ridden according to correct dressage principles, stay sound and athletic well into their teens and early twenties.
I'm not a fan of what upper level dressage has turned into today, however. Too much yanking and cranking for my taste.
Check out the retiring thoroughbreds from Finger Lakes Racetrack, for sale through FLTAP (a 501 (c) (3) ) at http://fltrainerlist.proboards104.com/
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Heck yeah! Poetry in motion. With a score like that they'll do very well in China - 83.85!
Crystal wrote:is it called a Piaffe (sp?)
Yes.
madelyn wrote:I used to love dressage.. before the breeding of giant over-collected hulks (warmbloods). Now it is like Western Pleasure, high-end gaited horses (Tennessee Walkers and Saddlebreds) and what the western people call Hunter Under Saddle. It's all too exaggerated and has stolen the dignity of the horse. There is nothing natural in that exhibition.
Did you ever notice that most of the people who buy those Hannosauruses are littly tiny women? And their husbanks buy them enormous pickup trucks that they need a ladder to get into...
trackgal wrote:I remeber this really "snooty" dressage gal showed up one morning during training and claimed "all these excercize rider's simply cannot ride"
So...we gave her an "easy" one, the pony had to pull her up, she was white as a sheet and all the freckles in her face disapeared...we never saw her again!
I'm glad she learned without getting hurt!
trackgal wrote:I know, I live in an area of show-horse people, alot of "dressage" and most of them wouldn't dream of riding on a windy day, or even go on a trail ride, some are too scared to even leave the ring..and I know some that have NEVER left the ring.
All too true.
Louise wrote:I always rode under a dressage trainer, but I never claimed to "ride dressage." That's because all I ever did is the lower level stuff, and, at that level, what you are really supposed to be doing is to prepare a horse to be a good "riding horse."
The old definition of dressage was to make a horse "calm, supple and obedient." Nothing wrong with that, no matter what discipline, including racing, that you intend to pursue. And, I have seen a lot of horses, when ridden according to correct dressage principles, stay sound and athletic well into their teens and early twenties.
I'm not a fan of what upper level dressage has turned into today, however. Too much yanking and cranking for my taste.
Seattle Slew was trained in low level dressage when he started training. I don't know how many people do that, but I think it's a good idea for horse and rider.
I have to agree about the cranking and spanking, though. There are screwballs everywhere. I've known people in TBs and stressage that I wouldn't leave in charge of a goldfish.
And thou fly without wings, and conquer without any sword. Oh, horse. - The Qur'an
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I will post, and I am sure I will get reamed for this.
Exercise riders can ride racehorses at the track.
But seriously most of them can't ride worth a sh@#t off the track. Legs and arms flapping all over the place. no idea about a bend, or that a horse should carry its own weight, instead of 100 lbs of it in the bridle!!! They are a breed of their own at the racetrack and God bless them for risking their lives in the morning. But lets get serious.
Exercise riders can ride racehorses at the track.
But seriously most of them can't ride worth a sh@#t off the track. Legs and arms flapping all over the place. no idea about a bend, or that a horse should carry its own weight, instead of 100 lbs of it in the bridle!!! They are a breed of their own at the racetrack and God bless them for risking their lives in the morning. But lets get serious.
Did you ever notice that most of the people who buy those Hannosauruses are littly tiny women? And their husbanks buy them enormous pickup trucks that they need a ladder to get into...
Hannosaurus is the new Up-and-coming breed.. Well they have been around for millions of years, but I heard there is a registry in the works. To become registered, the horse must be atleast 50% draft, the IQ of a turnip, and must be owned by a human no larger then 5'2", 125 lbs, and must drive a SUV, or pick up, no smaller then a F150, or 1500.
A Hannosarus must never be turned out longer then 1 hour per day. They must have a minimum of 4 boots and bellboots on. 2 rugs, and a padded halter and head bumper. As they are allergic to all forms of bugs, grass, sunlight, and fresh air.
The meal plan of the Hannosarus must consist of atleast 4-8 types of supplements. This, on top of rations, plus hay cubes (soaked in warm, not hot water), plus faxseed oil, sun flower oil, corn oil, and a blood building toni, as well as atleast 3 types of electrolytes.
A Hannosarus must be groomed atleast once a day, with minor clipping once a week, and major body overhaul twice a month. They must never be allowed to grow a coat in Winter. Manes must be pulled, and tailed banged weekly.
Hannosaurus is the new Up-and-coming breed.. Well they have been around for millions of years, but I heard there is a registry in the works. To become registered, the horse must be atleast 50% draft, the IQ of a turnip, and must be owned by a human no larger then 5'2", 125 lbs, and must drive a SUV, or pick up, no smaller then a F150, or 1500.
A Hannosarus must never be turned out longer then 1 hour per day. They must have a minimum of 4 boots and bellboots on. 2 rugs, and a padded halter and head bumper. As they are allergic to all forms of bugs, grass, sunlight, and fresh air.
The meal plan of the Hannosarus must consist of atleast 4-8 types of supplements. This, on top of rations, plus hay cubes (soaked in warm, not hot water), plus faxseed oil, sun flower oil, corn oil, and a blood building toni, as well as atleast 3 types of electrolytes.
A Hannosarus must be groomed atleast once a day, with minor clipping once a week, and major body overhaul twice a month. They must never be allowed to grow a coat in Winter. Manes must be pulled, and tailed banged weekly.