Nursery Stud (of Man O War fame)

[CountRaja]

Does anyone know where, exactly, Belmont's Nursery Stud was located in Lexington? Was is near Coldstream Farm?

[CountRaja]

Actually, I'm pretty sure I know a general location (RREH), I'm looking for an old map or aerial view to be more specific. . .

[nferro9925]

I think according to Grave Matters (a site that lists famous grave sites) - see tbheritage.com for link -
Rood & Riddle Vet Clinic is on the former site.

"Fairy Gold 1896 (unmarked, Rood and Riddle Vet Clinic, Lexington, KY; formerly Nursery Stud"

[CountRaja]

Thanks, that site is quite helpful.

I was just trying to get a general idea of how the stud was set up. Where the barns were, paddocks, fencing and the like. Maybe I could get an idea of where those horses are buried ( Hastings, Beldame, ect. ) and try to picture where I'd be standing when I pull into my parking spot every morning!

[nferro9925]

There is a book about Nursery Studs available on both Target.com and barnesandnoble.com

Maybe they have pictures.
I will try to remember the title - but if you put in Nursery Stud, book in google or goodsearch it should pop up.

[mini's mom]

there is a book out about the famous kentucky horse farms - it has info about normandy, dixiana, elmendorf, and how that area of lexington ky was cut up into various farms

normandy was named by george widner after he returned from wwi - don't remember what the others were named for

I looked on amazon.com but di dnot see it - it is an old book & may be out of print

it is either famous horse farms - famous bluegrass horse farms - but it has info on a lot of them

minismom

[ireneinwa]

Elmendorf, I haven't heard that name in awhile. My dads friend worked the breeding shed there for years.

[mini's mom]

I used to work for a man named leslie anderson who trained for mr gluck who owned elmendorf (in the 50's) - john kelly did so also

Les trained a horse named prince john for him - got him to win - got the mares all fat & in foal & all mr gluck did was complain about spending money -

Les died in august 2001 - miss him - I was in ky in 1993 & went on a farm tour - elmendorf was not very well kept (maybe it is now)

I don't remember the names of the other horses that les trained but there were a lot - mr gluck gave them all cadillac's for Christmas one year & they all had their own houses & plenty of money

No one in New England gave Les any credit for training - he was just another track bum - I took care of him (his daughter wouldn't) until the time he went into the nursing home - no one identified his body when he died - they had to find his niece - it was sad

susan

[ireneinwa]

Sounds just like my dads friend, the same happened when he died. He lived w/ my dad a short time, was very ill. Then a few months latter we got a call from nursing home that he was going to pass and the only # the nurse could find on him was my fathers. His name was Joe. So sad wish I could have said good bye. He trained for a short time for my dad in CA in 1989 or so but worked at Elmendorf I believe from the late 50's or so I know he was there for 20 yrs.

Before he died he went to the breeding farm with my father and I.
I couldn't decide between Dr Litin and Klinsmen. So I took is advice since he worked w/ Elmendorf for so long. Now I have a beautiful(hopefully talented) 2yr old filly.

Kinds makes me feel like there's an Elmendorf curse, being that two employee's died being all alone.

[mini's mom]

Les' daughter lives in ca & is a nurse with a big health care facility - I think he said she was some sort of manager - she ismarried to a Chinese man who told Les that they would love to have him live with them after he retired from training (guess it is an old oriental custom oftaking care of one's elders) but he said no.

Les' daughter isnot legitimate as he and her mother were never married so that is why she refused to take care of him while he was alive. She told him that she talked to a lawyer in ca and he told her that she was not obligated to care for her father so she didn't.

I made sure that he ate, had a place to live even though it was in a trailer park with another buddy of his & gave him all the money that I had out of law suit (6500) so that he could not loose his two horses that he had left - one was swindled away from him by a greedy horse trainer in new boston nh as she saw an opportunity to sell the mare for a lot of $$ claiming that he owed her a boar dbill & the mare's dam (nile flirt) who I had bred to a horse called Reign Road. When I worked for him Nile was one of my horses and I asked him for her after he retired.

I visited him in the nursing home in Brocton Ma. I would call to check on him from time to time & one time I called and the little girl who answered the phone told me that "Didn't you know that he had died in August" - they could not give out any more information to me as I was not a family member - I guess that the HBPA buried him - that is all that I know - His mare "Argyle" had died in 2002 of a ruptured ovary en route to a local surgical clinic - I tracked down the owner of the mare and gave her the papers as I had promised to do. Nile Flirt is stolen/missing in a scam & the matter is the Federal Court in Worcester (taht is all I can say about it)

It was sort of a sad end for Les. I miss him a lot. He taught me to listen to what the horse is tellingyou. I can run a bandage better than anyone else & my poltices' have no bumps in them & I showed up for work each day -

His daughter does not know what I did for him & I have had no contact with her

Maybe there is a curse on Elmendorf - Jack Cooke Kent did not do so well either

Susan

[mini's mom]

should clarify things

the money was a loan not a gift, as I am not made of money - he was in need & elderly & would help anyone

am going to try to contact his daughter to see if she can help me out now

would be a nice thing but I doubt she would even think of such a thing

minis mom

[vineyridge]

Somewhere in the Lexington area there is a graveyard with Mahubah and Fair Play. Can't remember where I saw that, but probably somewhere on the internet. I know I was extremely surprised and would love to visit, as I *think* Fair Play has a full sized statue.

[Lucy]

Somewhere in the Lexington area there is a graveyard with Mahubah and Fair Play. Can't remember where I saw that, but probably somewhere on the internet. I know I was extremely surprised and would love to visit, as I *think* Fair Play has a full sized statue.

You are correct on all counts. The graves are at Normandy Farm, which was once part of Elmendorf.

There are photos here:
http://www.tbheritage.com/TurfHallmarks/Graves/cem/GraveMattersNormandy.html

[CountRaja]

Fair Play and Mahubah are at Normandy Farm along with others.