I need to know coz I'm last in my friend's Saratoga Pool...I need to up my winnings.
Thanks!
Pick 3, 4 etcetera
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Pick 3, 4 etcetera
Can someone please explain, in detail, as if to an idiot, how these bets are placed? I looked it up on google but they say things like "you can pick one starter to win and horses in other races can be wheeled", but not HOW you specify that to those taking the bets. Does it have to be a wheel, or can I pick any number of alternates? How many races can have alternates?
I need to know coz I'm last in my friend's Saratoga Pool...I need to up my winnings.
Thanks!
I need to know coz I'm last in my friend's Saratoga Pool...I need to up my winnings.
Thanks!
All shouting does is make you lose your voice.
----Arrested Development
----Arrested Development
You would say something like this:
"Pleasanton, first race, $1 Pick 4: Play the 1 and 2 with the 3,4, and 5, with all, with the 7."
The key word is "with." "With" implies each leg of the race. So if you like the 1 and 2 horses in Leg 1, the 3,4, and 5 in Leg 2, can't decide in Leg 3, and are a strong believer in the 7 for the last race, it would be as above.
To calculate how much the bet would be, multiple each leg by the number of horses you picked, in a string. So multiply 2 by 3, then that total by 8 (let's say it is an 8 horse field in Leg 3), then that total by 1, and then multiply that number, in this case 48, by the price of the bet, usually $1.
I always specify the track and race number when I'm dealing with a human. It's a lot easier on a machine than talking to the pari-mutuel operator. I don't want to put anybody out of work, but you ought to try a voucher. Once you get the lingo down, you are set. My only beef with the software is that they all seem to write it as they expect you to tell an operator, when what ought to be specified first is the type of bet, not the amount. It's very frustrating to be behind somebody taking 5 minutes trying to play a $1 Pick-6 at Santa Anita, when the computer doesn't kick their bet back until the end after they've spent all that time entering the numbers. If they asked for the type of bet first, then the buttons for $0.10 and $1 would be grayed out for WPS and Pick-6.
"Pleasanton, first race, $1 Pick 4: Play the 1 and 2 with the 3,4, and 5, with all, with the 7."
The key word is "with." "With" implies each leg of the race. So if you like the 1 and 2 horses in Leg 1, the 3,4, and 5 in Leg 2, can't decide in Leg 3, and are a strong believer in the 7 for the last race, it would be as above.
To calculate how much the bet would be, multiple each leg by the number of horses you picked, in a string. So multiply 2 by 3, then that total by 8 (let's say it is an 8 horse field in Leg 3), then that total by 1, and then multiply that number, in this case 48, by the price of the bet, usually $1.
I always specify the track and race number when I'm dealing with a human. It's a lot easier on a machine than talking to the pari-mutuel operator. I don't want to put anybody out of work, but you ought to try a voucher. Once you get the lingo down, you are set. My only beef with the software is that they all seem to write it as they expect you to tell an operator, when what ought to be specified first is the type of bet, not the amount. It's very frustrating to be behind somebody taking 5 minutes trying to play a $1 Pick-6 at Santa Anita, when the computer doesn't kick their bet back until the end after they've spent all that time entering the numbers. If they asked for the type of bet first, then the buttons for $0.10 and $1 would be grayed out for WPS and Pick-6.
"When I am on my deathbed, I imagine I will say, 'Thank God I did that'" - Arthur Hancock, on buying back Gato del Sol from Europe after Exceller was killed in a slaughterhouse in Sweden.
OK---so as many alternates as I want as long as I pay for them .
Coolness.
God Forbid TVG ever take 2 minutes out of the TV schedule to explain this.
Anyway it is as I thought--just didn't know how to say it or what the restrictions were!
Thanks guys!
Coolness.
God Forbid TVG ever take 2 minutes out of the TV schedule to explain this.
Anyway it is as I thought--just didn't know how to say it or what the restrictions were!
Thanks guys!
All shouting does is make you lose your voice.
----Arrested Development
----Arrested Development
Toccet don't feel 'ignorant' on this subject b/c I promise you that I - and thousands like us - are even more ignorant of the specifics of "Pick" bets. Here's my question -
Assuming you're the lone winner of say the Del Mar Pick 4 on a Saturday when they have the "Pool" upwards of $2MM+ on what basis do you get paid on these bets? Strictly by the 'final' parimutual odds posted for the various horses you picked to win OR is there an element of winning the "pool" of monies bet by all who partook of the "Pick" bet option? IF you're the sole winning ticket do you get to take the entire Pool of bet moneis (minus the track's cut of course)? I've always assumed the latter but am not sure I'm correct. Still there has to be some multiplier to make the increased risk/difficulty of these types of bets worthwhile?
Assuming you're the lone winner of say the Del Mar Pick 4 on a Saturday when they have the "Pool" upwards of $2MM+ on what basis do you get paid on these bets? Strictly by the 'final' parimutual odds posted for the various horses you picked to win OR is there an element of winning the "pool" of monies bet by all who partook of the "Pick" bet option? IF you're the sole winning ticket do you get to take the entire Pool of bet moneis (minus the track's cut of course)? I've always assumed the latter but am not sure I'm correct. Still there has to be some multiplier to make the increased risk/difficulty of these types of bets worthwhile?
If you are the sole winning ticket on the Pick 4, you get the entire Pick 4 pool (after the state has taken out their cut). Remember that each type of bet has its own pool. The odds that are posted at the track are for WIN only, so funny things can happen in other pools. There is no multiplier. Each bet goes into its own pool, and you have just bought a share in that bet's performance. When the race is declared official, the state takes its cut, and thenwhat is left is returned to the shareholders. The less shareholders there are, the greater the payoff, but minimum payoff must be $2.10 for a $2 bet.
"When I am on my deathbed, I imagine I will say, 'Thank God I did that'" - Arthur Hancock, on buying back Gato del Sol from Europe after Exceller was killed in a slaughterhouse in Sweden.
