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Postby racefan55 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:02 pm

What is every body feeding their yearlings? There are so many brands of feed out there. I am currently feeding Purina's Equine Jr. Any body like another brand or formula better? How about harder keepers?
Just curious.

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Postby HeadlessHorseman » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:23 pm

I've been feeding mine Safe Choice....I had a foal in 2005 showing signs of an ulcer....so at my friends suggestion...I switched from Omolene 200 ...It looks and probably tastes like cardboard...but they have all matured nicely...

ALL of mine are on it and they range from 5 months-22 years

Tractor Supply just started carrying it as well as some Purina products...makes my trip a LOT faster....

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Postby Blue feather » Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:40 am

I feed Mccauleys original 14 pellets. I feed this to weanlings, yearlings,mares and have had good results.

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Postby tinners way » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:09 am

We feed Strategy to weanlings, yearlings, mares, etc., and have had very good results.

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Postby griff » Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:00 pm

I read an article in The Horse.com that said we are feeding horses far too much grain and messing up their natural omega 3/omega 6 ration..

Working horses need grain but the article cautioned that we should be mindful that grain is heavy in omega 6 and add omeba 3 products such as ground flax seed, brewers yeast, fish oil, ect... Never feed corn and especially never feed corn oil to any equine.

Oh yea, green grass is an excellent source of omega 3.

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Postby Joltman » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:57 am

griff wrote:... Never feed corn and especially never feed corn oil to any equine.


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Hey Griff

We've used veg oil and occasionally corn oil to increase the fat percentage in the feed and there's a lot of literature out there about that.

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/resources/lives ... g558-7.pdf

In some of the coldest winters its been a good source of safe energy.

I know there are problems with high percentages of unprocessed corn, but what's the problem with corn oil?

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Postby griff » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:03 am

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The "THE HORSE.COM article has a chart detailing the amount of omega 3 and omega 6 in various products.. grain, soybeans and even Camola are high in omega 6 but corn oil's omaga 6 vs omega 3 ration is through the roof..

Green grass is very high in omega 3 as is flax seed but the real champion is fish oil.

Go to The Horse.Com and look up the article. It's good reading.

Also, I belive SmartPac also has a very good chart on the omega 3 vs omega 6 ithat is very good

In summary, The Horse.Com article does not advocate not feeding grain but does recommend we do something to try to restire the natural Omegea 3 vs Omega 6 ration

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Postby griff » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:45 am

I have not found the exact article I was referring to but did find the folllowing THE Horse.com article:

The Latest on The Omegas {FAT} dated August 01, 2006. Article # 7186

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Postby Derby Lyn » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:07 am

I really like the Triple Crown products, the low starch and the growth. My young ones don't seem to like the growth so much, and it has a lot of molasses in it. I stick with the low starch. I also feed the Nutrena Safe Choice to the other ones. I love that TSC carries it now, and it is about $4 cheaper a bag...a big difference when you have to feed 20 horses.

How much grain are you feeding your youngsters?

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Postby griff » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:52 pm

a lot of malassis is low startch??

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Postby madelyn » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:12 pm

I think the Low Starch formula is a separate product from the Growth product. If you read the post, the Growth has a lot of molasses.
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Postby Joltman » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:58 pm

Theres a good article on the TTimes about a Va Tech service that is only $100 that is a thorough individualized analysis for a horse. Makes lots of sense for horses in training, broodmares and the like. My guys are just munching pasture so not a whole lot of need for me at this point.

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Postby griff » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:21 pm

Joltman

I was not able to find the article and would appreciate any directions you can give

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Postby el camino » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:58 am

griff wrote:a lot of malassis is low startch??

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They don't use Corn hence the exceptional Glycemic Index despite being a "sweet Feed" Great product, I highly recommend it. I think the safe Choice is good also but the Triple Crown is the best availble I have found in my area. http://www.triplecrownfeed.com/docs/052 ... illPhd.pdf

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Postby el camino » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:04 am

griff wrote:a lot of malassis is low startch??

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Notice on page 2 of the article I put a link too....Corn 70% starch! But at least in the past in was a "cheap" filler thats why it is present in almost all feeds to some extent, even the Safe Choice (last I checked anyway). Except the Triple Crown. Of course you pay more for the Beet Pulp product.