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I am starting to breed. Need suggestion.

Postby fedecuenca » Tue May 18, 2010 7:27 pm

Hi,
I got my firsta mare: MONINA GIRL. I am trying to decide wether to croos this mare with either Footstepsinthesand , Catcher in the Rye, Storm Surge or Art Master. Suggestions ?
Thanks. Federico.

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Postby btcountess » Tue May 18, 2010 8:32 pm

what state program are you breeding into?
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Postby fedecuenca » Wed May 19, 2010 4:15 am

in buenos aires, argentina

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Postby ratherrapid » Wed May 19, 2010 6:45 am

fed--that's a nice state there :) ! is this your first breeding decision or are you an experienced breeder?

D. Wayne Lukas "Winning Trainers" by Ross Staaden states preference to breeding similar body types to similar. but, q of which stallion would seem to depend on the sort of foal in terms of body build that you want. Possibly good advice here would need more info than just the horse's names.

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Offlee Wild

Postby hpkingjr » Wed May 19, 2010 11:21 am

Offlee Wild will also be heading to Argentina. I am unsure how close he might be to you. Another possible stallion to consider.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... -argentina
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Postby fedecuenca » Wed May 19, 2010 3:00 pm

Thanks. Offly Wild´s mating costs 100% more than Footstepsinthesand and 125% more than Storm Surge or Art Master.

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Postby louis finochio » Wed May 19, 2010 4:24 pm

Monina Girl has an outcross ped with no Inbreeding. Those stallions u posted are ok, as they will breed speed into MG family of all stamina.

Bred to the proven stallions that u posted. Dont breed to an unproven stallion.

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Postby hpkingjr » Wed May 19, 2010 4:43 pm

fedecuenca wrote:Thanks. Offly Wild´s mating costs 100% more than Footstepsinthesand and 125% more than Storm Surge or Art Master.


May be the best money you will spend. When you add up the cost of keeping the mare for two years plus vet expenses etc., the added cost of the stud fee is small compared to the total cost. Best of luck, tell us when your decision is final.
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Postby fedecuenca » Wed May 19, 2010 9:46 pm

Thanks a lot to you all. What would you choose to have: speed 7 stamina 13, speed 10 stamina 11 or speed 9 staina 12 ? or is it the same ?
Thanks again. I am new in this, and I am trying to learn.
Federico.

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Postby tbrace » Wed May 19, 2010 10:16 pm

Those numbers are pretty close, and indicate a balance between speed and stamina. They are just very general guidelines, also. The tracks are full of horses running sprints with stamina numbers and vice versa.

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Postby fedecuenca » Thu May 20, 2010 5:05 am

Can someone tell me what these numers mean, and which of them es more important to take in consideration while choosing a stallion ? Example:
At the top: MONINA GIRL (ARG) b. M, 1996 DP = 0-0-0-0-0 (0) DI = Inf CD = Inf - GSV = 43.88

At the bottom: Conduit Mare Profile = 3-1-6-7-5 Speed = 4 Stamina = 12 Index = 0.57 Triads = 10-14-18

Many thanks.

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Postby springboro » Thu May 20, 2010 8:13 am

I love her pedigree!

Mat-Boy was a super runner in California and has at least two G1 wins there. Mat-Boy is also the sire of Festin.

Your mare's broodmare sire is a full sister to the dam of my Helen O (recently passed away, so sad). Almira and Mountdrago were both champions.

Good luck with her. She's 14; what have her other foals done so far? See who her best foal has been and what have been successful other matings with the immediate female family.
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Postby springboro » Thu May 20, 2010 8:23 am

Wow, a very similiarly bred mare (by Mat-Boy out of a Mountdrago mare) produced the champion in Peru.

http://www.werkhorse.com/pdf/martinagirl.pdf

Breed her to El Compinche if he is available, nearby, and affordable.

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Postby springboro » Thu May 20, 2010 8:26 am

more analysis on El Compinche and his son Magnum

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/truenick ... oving.aspx

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Postby springboro » Thu May 20, 2010 8:30 am

and of course, if you're a fan of inbreeding to superior mares, I can offer my own yearling, Anderson Cooper.

When crossed with your mare, you get the two full siblings, both champions, Almira and Mountdrago. http://www.pedigreequery.com/two+sheets

I'll just ship him your way whenever you're ready!