Hi All,
I am posting these video clips for the public to see what is going on in Riverside County California. Franklin and Trea Cleaves, a married and professional horsemen couple, and Franklin, a VERY well known TB race trainer in Southern CA, are still fighting against the corrupted Riverside Animal Control. Please take time to hear their story of what actually happened to them, it is very disturbing. Just knowing what can happen to good people with horses might make you take a second look at who you get to take care of your equines when you are not able.
This NEW TOPIC is dedicated to Mr. and Mrs. Cleaves. Your support here will help them keep fighting for justice to be done. Thank you PQ members!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18MMdbO4 ... 42&index=6
Please let me know if you have any ideas of how to help this couple who are two of the sweetest people, who still maintain a positive and wonderful sense of humor through all of this! Be Blessed!
One of TN's finest TB trainers needs JUSTICE on his side!
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One of TN's finest TB trainers needs JUSTICE on his side!
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I grew up near Riverside and I rode in Riverside and stabled there with my arabian. I know that the AnimaCountrol there and they are tough. These people need to have copies of there receipts that they gave the caretaker. Its hard because you are not giving the facts that are required to support these people. I know Cocran their attourney- he can be a pain. But what is going on now?
What does the defense say.
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What does the defense say.
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ratherrapid wrote:is there some compelling reason we should watch all this? maybe u would summarize the argument and situation.
Which was going to be my suggestion. The 1st video I pulled up was 18min. long and 3yrs. old. Needless to say I didn't watch it. Also, I don't mean any disrespect but I've never heard of Franklin Cleaves. I'm just saying this since I follow Ca. racing and you stated that he's a "VERY" well known trainer.
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(Snynopsis by Trea Cleaves)
Franklin Cleaves, A paralyzed 100% Service Disabled Vietnam Veteran was moving from Temecula to San Diego with his 10 horses, 2 llamas and 6 dogs on Nov. 8, 2007. The owner of the ranch he was moving to called him to say that the ranch was destroyed in the wildfires which destroyed much of So. Ca. that day. (He did not return Franklin's $2500 deposit claiming he did not have it. Franklin felt sorry for him.
Franklin called the FIRE HOT LINE prominently displayed by Riverside County Animal Control, and was given Jason Lopez's address and phone number.
Jason Lopez agreed to board the horses and llamas for $1100 a month. Beginning Nov. 9, 2007. Jason was paid on the first of each month.
Franklin has to go to the La JOlla VA Hospital most days for treatment for his many injuries, so he never saw his horses in daylight.
On March 6, 2008, Franklin got a call from Tom Smith, another boarder, that Jason was leaving in the middle of the night with all his own horses.
Franklin saw his horses for the first time in daylight. They were skelletons.The police were called and they said it was a civil matter. Animal control showed up a ordered Franklin to remove his starved horses from the property or they would be seized.
Scott walker (Walker Advantage Coldwell Banker RE, Murrieta, Ca.) the actual owner of the property,had the water shut off to his ranch. So the starved horses were also deprived of water. It took Franklin and his helpers at least 3 hours each day to fill buckets of water from the nearest ranch for the horses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Franklin found a campground to move the horses to that had horse corrals.
On April 18, 2007, A few weeks after the STARVED horses were moved, a VERY HOSTILE WOMAN dresses as a US military sniper was caught by Franklin's wife, Trea, parked by the horses.
This woman identifed herself as Riverside animal control, but had no name badge or business cards.
She photographed all EIGHT HORSES.
At 5 a.m., April 19, 2008, Franklin's Thoroughbred Race Horse Stallion was stollen in a New rig. A Chaplin who lived at the campground witnessed this well.
The horse thieves even WAVED to him!!!! He thought Franklin was moving his horses himself.
Trea moved back to San Diego.
Franklin moved the horses to a property that had a 2 acre pasture. He paid several people to help him feed the horses.
Some one was stealing the hay, grain, dog food and items from his trailer.
So he found 400 acres to move the horses to.
EVERYONE KNEW HE WAS MOVING THE HORSES ON THE AFTERNOON OF NOV. 4, 2008.
The horses were seized that same day WITHOUT ANY NOTICE. THERE WAS A PAPER POSTED THAT THERE WOULD BE A POST SEIZURE HEARING IN RIVERSIDE, CA. ABOUT 60 MORE MILES AWAY.
When Franklin and Trea entered the PACKED ROOM, they both recognized the fake sniper. IT TURNED OUT TO BE LESLEY HEUNNEKENS. AN ANIMAL CONTROL AGENT WHO HAD LITERALLY BEEN STALKING US BEHIND OUR BACKS SINCE SHE WORKED WITH SCOTT WALKER TO TUEN THE WATER OFF TO OUR STARVED HORSES BACK IN MARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE POINTED AT THIS PERSON AND STATED SIMULTANEOUSLY "THERE'S THE WOMAN WHO STOLE BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
WE WERE HOSTILLY TOLD BY THE MAN DIRECTING THIS KANGAROO MEETING "IF YOU MENTION BUDDY AGAIN YOU WILL BE KICKED OUT OF THIS MEETING.
THE MEETING WAS A JOKE, WITH HEUNNEKENS TELLING PREPOSTEROUS LIES THAT SHE HAD CONTACT WITH US. WE HAD ONLY SEEN HER THE 1 TIME THE EVENING BEFORE BUDDY WAS STOLEN.
WE IMMEDIATELY FILED AN APPEAL BUT NEVER HEARD BACK FROM ANIMAL CONTROL.
WE HIRED ATTORNEY TOM SMITH TO FILE SUIT ON ANIMAL CONTROL. WE GAVE HIM HIS REQUESTED RETAINER.
A MONTH LATER HE DEMANDED MUCH MORE MONEY. WE DID NOT HAVE IT.
HE TOLD ME ANIMAL CONTROL WOULD NOT RETURN HIS CALLS.
ON MARCH 20, 2009, SMITH CALLED FRANKLIN TO TELL HIM THERE WERE CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST HIM!!!!!!!
THE COURT APPOINTED LAWYERS WORK FOR RIVERSIDE COUNTY AND ARE PAID BY RIVERSIDE COUNTY COUNSEL - THE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS FOR LESLEY HEUNNEKENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IN THE ALMOST 2 YEARS THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN THE RIVERSIDE COURT, THESE LAWYERS HAVE NEVER CALLED US, RETURNED A CALL, ANSWERED AN EMAIL. WE MUST GO TO COURT AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH AND WE ARE NEVER TOLD WHAT IS GOING ON.
I TRIED TO GET A DIFFERENT LAWYER, BUT WAS DENIED, SO I FIRED MY COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY.
SHE GAVE ME THE FILE ON SEPT. 30, 2010.
LOOKING THROUGH THE FILE I FOUND OUT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE EX GIRLFRIEND OF OUR DAUGHTER (SHASTA), TRYCE CZYCZYNSKA, WAS WORKING WITH HER "FRIEND" LESLEY HEUNNEKENS. BOTH WOMEN ARE WELL KNOWN DOMINATRIX/LESBIANS WHO KNOW EACH OTHER FROM THIS PERVERTED WORLD. OUR DAUGHTER BROKE UP WITH CZYCZYNSKA WHEN SHE FOUND OUT SHE WAS A DOMINATRIX AND HAD MADE MALICIOUS LIES TO ANIMAL CONTROL WHEN HER PARENTS WERE STRUGGLING TO HEAL THEIR STARVED HORSES FOLLOWING THE WILDFIRES WHICH BURNED THEIR RANCH. SHASTA HAD NO IDEA TRYCE CONTINUED HER VENDETTA WITH HER FRIEND, LESLEY HEUNNEKENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE HAVE PARTS OF THE EMAILS THAT LESLEY AND TRYCE SENT TO EACH OTHER USING LESLEY'S ANIMAL CONTROL EMAIL. IT IS APPEARANT THAT THERE ARE MORE EMAILS.............
(Snynopsis by Trea Cleaves)
Franklin Cleaves, A paralyzed 100% Service Disabled Vietnam Veteran was moving from Temecula to San Diego with his 10 horses, 2 llamas and 6 dogs on Nov. 8, 2007. The owner of the ranch he was moving to called him to say that the ranch was destroyed in the wildfires which destroyed much of So. Ca. that day. (He did not return Franklin's $2500 deposit claiming he did not have it. Franklin felt sorry for him.
Franklin called the FIRE HOT LINE prominently displayed by Riverside County Animal Control, and was given Jason Lopez's address and phone number.
Jason Lopez agreed to board the horses and llamas for $1100 a month. Beginning Nov. 9, 2007. Jason was paid on the first of each month.
Franklin has to go to the La JOlla VA Hospital most days for treatment for his many injuries, so he never saw his horses in daylight.
On March 6, 2008, Franklin got a call from Tom Smith, another boarder, that Jason was leaving in the middle of the night with all his own horses.
Franklin saw his horses for the first time in daylight. They were skelletons.The police were called and they said it was a civil matter. Animal control showed up a ordered Franklin to remove his starved horses from the property or they would be seized.
Scott walker (Walker Advantage Coldwell Banker RE, Murrieta, Ca.) the actual owner of the property,had the water shut off to his ranch. So the starved horses were also deprived of water. It took Franklin and his helpers at least 3 hours each day to fill buckets of water from the nearest ranch for the horses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Franklin found a campground to move the horses to that had horse corrals.
On April 18, 2007, A few weeks after the STARVED horses were moved, a VERY HOSTILE WOMAN dresses as a US military sniper was caught by Franklin's wife, Trea, parked by the horses.
This woman identifed herself as Riverside animal control, but had no name badge or business cards.
She photographed all EIGHT HORSES.
At 5 a.m., April 19, 2008, Franklin's Thoroughbred Race Horse Stallion was stollen in a New rig. A Chaplin who lived at the campground witnessed this well.
The horse thieves even WAVED to him!!!! He thought Franklin was moving his horses himself.
Trea moved back to San Diego.
Franklin moved the horses to a property that had a 2 acre pasture. He paid several people to help him feed the horses.
Some one was stealing the hay, grain, dog food and items from his trailer.
So he found 400 acres to move the horses to.
EVERYONE KNEW HE WAS MOVING THE HORSES ON THE AFTERNOON OF NOV. 4, 2008.
The horses were seized that same day WITHOUT ANY NOTICE. THERE WAS A PAPER POSTED THAT THERE WOULD BE A POST SEIZURE HEARING IN RIVERSIDE, CA. ABOUT 60 MORE MILES AWAY.
When Franklin and Trea entered the PACKED ROOM, they both recognized the fake sniper. IT TURNED OUT TO BE LESLEY HEUNNEKENS. AN ANIMAL CONTROL AGENT WHO HAD LITERALLY BEEN STALKING US BEHIND OUR BACKS SINCE SHE WORKED WITH SCOTT WALKER TO TUEN THE WATER OFF TO OUR STARVED HORSES BACK IN MARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE POINTED AT THIS PERSON AND STATED SIMULTANEOUSLY "THERE'S THE WOMAN WHO STOLE BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
WE WERE HOSTILLY TOLD BY THE MAN DIRECTING THIS KANGAROO MEETING "IF YOU MENTION BUDDY AGAIN YOU WILL BE KICKED OUT OF THIS MEETING.
THE MEETING WAS A JOKE, WITH HEUNNEKENS TELLING PREPOSTEROUS LIES THAT SHE HAD CONTACT WITH US. WE HAD ONLY SEEN HER THE 1 TIME THE EVENING BEFORE BUDDY WAS STOLEN.
WE IMMEDIATELY FILED AN APPEAL BUT NEVER HEARD BACK FROM ANIMAL CONTROL.
WE HIRED ATTORNEY TOM SMITH TO FILE SUIT ON ANIMAL CONTROL. WE GAVE HIM HIS REQUESTED RETAINER.
A MONTH LATER HE DEMANDED MUCH MORE MONEY. WE DID NOT HAVE IT.
HE TOLD ME ANIMAL CONTROL WOULD NOT RETURN HIS CALLS.
ON MARCH 20, 2009, SMITH CALLED FRANKLIN TO TELL HIM THERE WERE CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST HIM!!!!!!!
THE COURT APPOINTED LAWYERS WORK FOR RIVERSIDE COUNTY AND ARE PAID BY RIVERSIDE COUNTY COUNSEL - THE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS FOR LESLEY HEUNNEKENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IN THE ALMOST 2 YEARS THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN THE RIVERSIDE COURT, THESE LAWYERS HAVE NEVER CALLED US, RETURNED A CALL, ANSWERED AN EMAIL. WE MUST GO TO COURT AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH AND WE ARE NEVER TOLD WHAT IS GOING ON.
I TRIED TO GET A DIFFERENT LAWYER, BUT WAS DENIED, SO I FIRED MY COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY.
SHE GAVE ME THE FILE ON SEPT. 30, 2010.
LOOKING THROUGH THE FILE I FOUND OUT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE EX GIRLFRIEND OF OUR DAUGHTER (SHASTA), TRYCE CZYCZYNSKA, WAS WORKING WITH HER "FRIEND" LESLEY HEUNNEKENS. BOTH WOMEN ARE WELL KNOWN DOMINATRIX/LESBIANS WHO KNOW EACH OTHER FROM THIS PERVERTED WORLD. OUR DAUGHTER BROKE UP WITH CZYCZYNSKA WHEN SHE FOUND OUT SHE WAS A DOMINATRIX AND HAD MADE MALICIOUS LIES TO ANIMAL CONTROL WHEN HER PARENTS WERE STRUGGLING TO HEAL THEIR STARVED HORSES FOLLOWING THE WILDFIRES WHICH BURNED THEIR RANCH. SHASTA HAD NO IDEA TRYCE CONTINUED HER VENDETTA WITH HER FRIEND, LESLEY HEUNNEKENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE HAVE PARTS OF THE EMAILS THAT LESLEY AND TRYCE SENT TO EACH OTHER USING LESLEY'S ANIMAL CONTROL EMAIL. IT IS APPEARANT THAT THERE ARE MORE EMAILS.............
Hello,
Still trying to help these great folks. Trea has not yet been given a password to join the Message Board, so is not able to help explain what they are going through.
I reduced the videos down to one per Trea's request. I think I have the correct video up, that summarizes what they have been through. As an update, they have contcted the FBI in Riversde County. The FBI seemed to be shocked at what has happened t them, so hopefully the ball continues to roll in their favor once and for all.
If a moderator has their application (Trea Cleaves), please let them join to state their case for help. Thank you! CR
Still trying to help these great folks. Trea has not yet been given a password to join the Message Board, so is not able to help explain what they are going through.
I reduced the videos down to one per Trea's request. I think I have the correct video up, that summarizes what they have been through. As an update, they have contcted the FBI in Riversde County. The FBI seemed to be shocked at what has happened t them, so hopefully the ball continues to roll in their favor once and for all.
If a moderator has their application (Trea Cleaves), please let them join to state their case for help. Thank you! CR
reedhill wrote:If a moderator has their application (Trea Cleaves), please let them join to state their case for help. Thank you! CR
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Unfortunately AC is not always there to help us. We had a situation here in MI with a Paint and QH breeding/racing farm. Ac had it out for them and siezed all of their horses, over 100 of them I believe. The pics that AC posted online of the "starved" horses before AC took over them showed fat fat horses eating off of round bales. AC offered to sell all the horses back to the rightful owners for a crazy numer, somewhere around $160,000. Why sell them back to the owners when they think the owners were not caring for them properly in the first place?
About 6 months later AC took the horses to auction, mostly the young unregistered ones. They were ribby and wormy, skinnier then when they were in the care of the farm owner. Some went on the kill truck.
The expensive stallions went to the stock sale and sold for $5000+. The owners had lots of support, and actually I am not sure what ever came of it.
I hope the Cleaves get their situation figured out.
About 6 months later AC took the horses to auction, mostly the young unregistered ones. They were ribby and wormy, skinnier then when they were in the care of the farm owner. Some went on the kill truck.
The expensive stallions went to the stock sale and sold for $5000+. The owners had lots of support, and actually I am not sure what ever came of it.
I hope the Cleaves get their situation figured out.
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LAME TO FAME FOUNDATION
Lame to Fame Foundation was a corporation registered in the state of California.
It was a domestic corporation, meaning it was formed, as well as registered, in California. Its articles of incorporation were filed on September 12, 2007.
All of Lame to Fame Foundation's powers, rights and privileges in the State of California have been suspended. This could have happened because they failed to file a return and/or pay taxes to the California Franchise Tax Board, or because they failed to make certain informational filings with the California Secretary of State. The specific reason for this suspension can be found by ordering a status report from the Secretary of State.
Lame to Fame Foundation was a nonprofit public benefit.
Corporation Number 02992204
Status Suspended
Date of Filing 09/12/2007
Type Domestic
Profit/Nonprofit Nonprofit
Classification Public benefit
Mailing Address
c/o Franklin Cleaves
P O Box 2
Bonsall CA 92003
President
Registered Agent
Trea Cleaves
P. O. Box 2
Bonsall CA 92003
This information is based upon data provided by the California Secretary of State on 08/25/10 and is believed to be accurate as of that date. However, it is provided without warranty of any kind, express or implied.
Read more: http://california.14thstory.com/lame-to ... z17v0zCZdr
LAME TO FAME FOUNDATION
Lame to Fame Foundation was a corporation registered in the state of California.
It was a domestic corporation, meaning it was formed, as well as registered, in California. Its articles of incorporation were filed on September 12, 2007.
All of Lame to Fame Foundation's powers, rights and privileges in the State of California have been suspended. This could have happened because they failed to file a return and/or pay taxes to the California Franchise Tax Board, or because they failed to make certain informational filings with the California Secretary of State. The specific reason for this suspension can be found by ordering a status report from the Secretary of State.
Lame to Fame Foundation was a nonprofit public benefit.
Corporation Number 02992204
Status Suspended
Date of Filing 09/12/2007
Type Domestic
Profit/Nonprofit Nonprofit
Classification Public benefit
Mailing Address
c/o Franklin Cleaves
P O Box 2
Bonsall CA 92003
President
Registered Agent
Trea Cleaves
P. O. Box 2
Bonsall CA 92003
This information is based upon data provided by the California Secretary of State on 08/25/10 and is believed to be accurate as of that date. However, it is provided without warranty of any kind, express or implied.
Read more: http://california.14thstory.com/lame-to ... z17v0zCZdr
A woman needs 2 animals in her life-the horse of her dreams, and a jackass to pay for it!
LAME TO FAME FOUNDATION
Lame to Fame Foundation was a corporation registered in the state of California.
It was a domestic corporation, meaning it was formed, as well as registered, in California. Its articles of incorporation were filed on September 12, 2007.
All of Lame to Fame Foundation's powers, rights and privileges in the State of California have been suspended. This could have happened because they failed to file a return and/or pay taxes to the California Franchise Tax Board, or because they failed to make certain informational filings with the California Secretary of State. The specific reason for this suspension can be found by ordering a status report from the Secretary of State.
Lame to Fame Foundation was a nonprofit public benefit.
A note from Trea Cleaves:
"Lame to Fame Foundation" does not exist without our HORSES!!!! I did let it laps due to cost.
FYI - Franklin always worked for big owners - like the Presswood Farm in Texas. Franklin trained 28 +/- horses for them in SoCal. and travelled to South America and Australia to pick Race Horses for them. Franklin also trained for Alan Paulson at his farm in Bonsall, Ca.
Franklin has never bothered to make a name for himself. He really can't be bothered. He is an outstanding trainer who is VERY WELL known here in Southern Cal. BY INSIDERS who remember the horses he trained. And what an all around good/interesting person.
The video at SANTA ANITA RACE TRACK should IMPRESS the critics.....JUST TRY TO GET A NEWS VIDEO CAMERA AND CREW ONTO THE BACK SIDE OR FRONT SIDE OF ANY RACE TRACK!!!!!!! (at least in California) YOU HAVE TO BE A "PROFESSIONAL IN GOOD STANDING WITH A VALID REASON FOR VIDEOING"
As far as 'shouting' about private lives - a DOMINATRIX is a PERVERT by every definition. Just like a child molester. Tryce Czyczynska preys on sweet YOUNG WOMEN like our daughter. You cannot begin to imagine what we are still going through. But we are fighting with all barrels. PRAY FOR PEACE, TREA
Lame to Fame Foundation was a corporation registered in the state of California.
It was a domestic corporation, meaning it was formed, as well as registered, in California. Its articles of incorporation were filed on September 12, 2007.
All of Lame to Fame Foundation's powers, rights and privileges in the State of California have been suspended. This could have happened because they failed to file a return and/or pay taxes to the California Franchise Tax Board, or because they failed to make certain informational filings with the California Secretary of State. The specific reason for this suspension can be found by ordering a status report from the Secretary of State.
Lame to Fame Foundation was a nonprofit public benefit.
A note from Trea Cleaves:
"Lame to Fame Foundation" does not exist without our HORSES!!!! I did let it laps due to cost.
FYI - Franklin always worked for big owners - like the Presswood Farm in Texas. Franklin trained 28 +/- horses for them in SoCal. and travelled to South America and Australia to pick Race Horses for them. Franklin also trained for Alan Paulson at his farm in Bonsall, Ca.
Franklin has never bothered to make a name for himself. He really can't be bothered. He is an outstanding trainer who is VERY WELL known here in Southern Cal. BY INSIDERS who remember the horses he trained. And what an all around good/interesting person.
The video at SANTA ANITA RACE TRACK should IMPRESS the critics.....JUST TRY TO GET A NEWS VIDEO CAMERA AND CREW ONTO THE BACK SIDE OR FRONT SIDE OF ANY RACE TRACK!!!!!!! (at least in California) YOU HAVE TO BE A "PROFESSIONAL IN GOOD STANDING WITH A VALID REASON FOR VIDEOING"
As far as 'shouting' about private lives - a DOMINATRIX is a PERVERT by every definition. Just like a child molester. Tryce Czyczynska preys on sweet YOUNG WOMEN like our daughter. You cannot begin to imagine what we are still going through. But we are fighting with all barrels. PRAY FOR PEACE, TREA