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Postby reenci » Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:55 am

Gov.Cuomo stated on march 15th that "why would people think that the casinos would be at racetracks?" :?: ....well my fellow NY HORSEMEN the writings on the wall :shock: ...this asshole is planning the doom of NY RACING....on purpose or not that will be the end result for racing if the casinos are not tied to the race tracks....slippery liar just like his worthless father was.....horsemen need to unite in this state and nip this bullshit in the bud.
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Postby madelyn » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:54 am

Wasn't his family tied to the mob at one time?
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Postby reenci » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:42 pm

i dont think so...just because he's italian does not mean he his family was "connected"...and i dont infer thats what you meant ....besides all that...his father ran the state into the ground and his son is nothing but a pro gay marriage advocate carbon copy of the ole man....he's a crook like all the rest........oh you know what ? wasnt he "housing secretary" :shock: in the clinton administration under which the "housing bubble" developed.. :idea: :idea: :?: :!: :oops: :roll:
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Postby madelyn » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:19 pm

I wasn't implying anything - I thought some of his family was caught up in a bribery/corruption scandal with payoffs for government construction contracts from some of those "made guys"...
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Postby casallc » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:19 pm

In 1987 he was widely expected to make a bid for nomination as Democratic presidential candidate but he shocked the party by insisting he had no intention of running. His reluctance to stand aroused speculation about his Italian roots and the possibility of Mafia connections. He furiously denied these rumours and they were subsequently declared unfounded after "investigation" by the New York Magazine. As the primary campaign drew to a close in 1988 Cuomo remained the non-candidate whose shadow nevertheless loomed over the convention. He disappointed many in the party when he failed to play "white knight" and deliver the convention from the unenviable task of choosing between the charismatic black candidate, Jesse Jackson, and the lacklustre Michael Dukakis.

In the magazine piece, Pileggi, who has covered organized crime since 1956, reported these rumors:

Cuomo's father-in-law, Charles Raffa, now 83, was the victim of a mob beating that grew out of a dispute about arson.

Raffa, who owns several buildings and vacant lots in Brooklyn, was severely beaten in 1984 after he showed an empty supermarket in East New York to a potential buyer. Police did not catch the assailant, but found no evidence of mob involvement or planned arson, Pileggi said. Andrew Cuomo, the governor's son and campaign manager, is quoted as dismissing suggestions of arson because the supermarket had no fire insurance.

Cuomo interfered with the police investigation of the beating and that an arrest of Raffa for arson was erased from state computers. Cuomo was in Albany on the day of the attack, Pileggi reported, and state police have a computer record of a 1973 arrest of Raffa, but on a misdemeanor charge of offering an illegal gratuity. The charge was later dismissed.

Cuomo once represented organized-crime figures as a Queens lawyer. Pileggi found only that Cuomo once represented an association of about 15 junkyard dealers, one of which was partially owned by Joseph (Joey Narrows) Laratro, a member of the Luchese crime family. Cuomo was quoted as saying he never represented Laratro personally and he "got stiffed on the fee."

A mobster gave Cuomo $30,000 in political donations. At a 1984 fund-raiser, Cuomo's campaign received a $1,000 check from each of five firms that investigators have identified as paper companies set up to avoid paying gasoline taxes. The campaign gave the money to charity after this was discovered, according to Andrew Cuomo.

Cuomo's former law firm passed money to a mobster later acquitted of murdering a detective. Pileggi found no evidence of this.

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Postby IcouldbeU » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:05 pm

thanks Mod for once again getting us off topic.

From the NY Breeders Website:

Albany Moves Forward with Casino Legislation

Governor Cuomo, Senate Majority Leader Skelos and Assembly Speaker Silver announced on Wednesday that they have reached agreement on and approved legislation to begin the process of amending the state constitution to allow casino gaming in New York. The legislation calls for no more than seven privately owned commercial casinos in New York.

The Assembly and Senate passed this legislation early Thursday morning, which, because it amends the State Constitution, will then need to be voted on and approved by the next legislature and then ratified by the people. The earliest a public referendum can be held is 2013.

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Postby reenci » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:39 pm

[quote="madelyn"]I wasn't implying anything - I thought some of his family was caught up in a bribery/corruption scandal with payoffs for government construction contracts from some of those "made guys"...[/qoute......like i said i did not mean to infer thats what you meant :wink: ...but you could be right :!: it wouldnt surprise me in the least....
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Postby reenci » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:41 pm

IcouldbeU wrote:thanks Mod for once again getting us off topic.

From the NY Breeders Website:

Albany Moves Forward with Casino Legislation

Governor Cuomo, Senate Majority Leader Skelos and Assembly Speaker Silver announced on Wednesday that they have reached agreement on and approved legislation to begin the process of amending the state constitution to allow casino gaming in New York. The legislation calls for no more than seven privately owned commercial casinos in New York.

The Assembly and Senate passed this legislation early Thursday morning, which, because it amends the State Constitution, will then need to be voted on and approved by the next legislature and then ratified by the people. The earliest a public referendum can be held is 2013.
......my quote from the GOV. was today.....gotta watch those slippery mouths serpents
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Postby IcouldbeU » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:04 pm

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/casinos ... -1.1040246

today is 3/16/12 right??

The Legislature, in a session that stretched into the early morning hours Thursday, gave first approval to a constitutional amendment that would allow up to seven non-Indian casinos in New York.

The amendment must be approved by lawmakers again in 2013 — and by the public in a referendum before it can be enacted.

Cuomo said no discussions have been held on where to locate the casinos. He has previously said, however, that the Aqueduct racino — which is the site of a proposed convention center — would be a suitable spot.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/casinos ... z1pKcamzIb


From the Thoroughbred Times: http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/nation ... cuomo.aspx

So my question is---does Cuomo plan to demolish Aqueduct to build the proposed convention center and use the # of breakdowns since January as the reason???

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Postby Linda_d » Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:17 pm

I don't see how the state can allow casinos off the Native American reservations since the NYS Constitution expressly forbids them. The Native American casinos are allowed because of federal law.

In order to amend the state constitution, the voters have to approve the amendment in two consecutive elections. The anti-casino lobby is pretty strong and has defeated attempts to change the constitution to allow casinos for the last three or four decades.
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Postby Sailor Kenshin » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:17 pm

Linda_d wrote:I don't see how the state can allow casinos off the Native American reservations since the NYS Constitution expressly forbids them. The Native American casinos are allowed because of federal law.

In order to amend the state constitution, the voters have to approve the amendment in two consecutive elections. The anti-casino lobby is pretty strong and has defeated attempts to change the constitution to allow casinos for the last three or four decades.


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Postby karenkarenn » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:16 pm

Hello,
As one of the few that live in a state that has many many casinos outside of the Tribal owned land, I CAN say that casinos for our state are very very helpfull. Yes we have a track in our state.
Now the gaming that is owned by the many tribes here help those tribes because right next door is either an Army Base or an air force base breathing down their throat. And we still have control over them 90% of the time, many tribes don't have enough money to fight our government. They have their own Tribal Police and Tribal Rule but they need their casinos to help out with their issues.
Yes I love to play slots, penny machines, Texas Hold em and many many casino's outside of the Tribal lands help the community out. And we ( the community) appreciate the money donated to our organizations. If it packs butts into the place why not. More people gamble, better purses, better payouts. That s what a casino is all about.