LOTOWHITE (1947) any photo to be seen

[Jorge]

Looking for a photo of LOTOWHITE (1947).
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

[Jorge]

I would really appreciate a helping hand on this one. LOTOWHITE (1947) was a white marked equine who participated in the 1950 Kentucky Derby.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Blessings,

[nferro9925]

Jorge,

Have you a chance to look him up in one of the old Bloodstock Breeder's
Review books for either 1950 or 1951? Mine are in NY and I can not get
to them at the moment, but Lotowhite did run in some good stakes and should have a picture somewhere in one them.

If not, ask the National Hall of Fame's librarian. They usually have a tone of stuff we mortals don't have access to!

[Jorge]

Dear Nferro,

Thank you very much for the good suggestions. I dont have access to those magazines/books but the alternative "B" sounds more at hand. Will keep it in mind, but perhaps someone here may know about the magazines. Lets see.

I really appreciate your kindness,

Blessings,

[StayOutFront]

Hi Jorge,

A friend of mine has access to a large racing photo library, and he might be able to find a few of these photos for you.

For starters....if you had a Top 5 Photo-Want List, which horses would be on it?

[Jorge]

It all depends on when you ask me for I am always seeking lineages and phenotypes. Right now, my list includes Lotowhite, Phylately and ANY
pre-1950s "bold-blazed/high-leg-marked/solitary spotted" solo or or combo name anyone can come across.

Blessings,

[StayOutFront]

Then we shall start with Lotowhite and Phylately, as their photo library unfortunately does not offer options to find brightly-marked TBs. I'll post photos if he can find them!

In looking through the 1936 American Race Horses, flashy TBs include:

High Fleet (ch. f. 1933, by Jack High - Armada, by Man o' War. Her two left legs (front, rear) have stockings that aren't quite up to the knee/hock, and she has a medium blaze.

Good Gamble (ch.f. 1932, by Chance Play - Triangle, by Omar Khayyam) has a broad blaze but only one hind sock.

Red Rain (ch.c., by Pennant - Dustemall) has a broad blaze, and seems to have 2 or 3 white legs.

None of those has overly high stockings, however (over the knee) nor bald faces, but they were at least flashy for the times.

The 1938 American Race Horses includes:

The Chief (ch.c., 1935, by Pennant - Transit, by Chicle) has what appears a large blaze, and a high right hind stocking.

The 1939 American Race Horses does not seem to show any overly-brightly-marked TBs.

Regarding old-time stallions, there seem several nicely marked (although not wildly flashy) Pennants.

Golden Broom had a large blaze.

Among mares:

Roguish Eye (1926, by Flittergold - Sly Wink) had a fairly broad blaze and hind stocking. Misstep (ch.c., 1925, by Upset - St Theresa) had a good-sized blaze and hind stockings. Sly Wink (ch.m. 1915, by Merchant - Imp. Hazel and Blue) had a blaze that extended well over/past her left nostril.

Rosewood 's 1929 foal (not sure of sire) was chestnut with a nice blaze and good-sized hind stockings.

Finally, a REALLY flashy one: Mrs. Trubbel (ch. m., 1915, by Hamburg - Pankhurst?), had front stockings up to/over the knee, a hind stocking to the hock, a large white blaze and what seems a small white spot on her belly.

Gossip Avenue (ch.m., 1917) had a 1929 foal who had three high white stockings and a pretty wide blaze (not sure of sex/sire).

As I have time, I'll look through more photos to see if I can find others as brightly marked as Mrs. Trubbel.

[halo]

There is a picture of Lotowhite in the 1951 issue of American Race Horses, showing him finishing 4th in the Gallant Fox Handicap. From the picture it loks like he has a blaze, some white on his chin, possibly 4 white legs, with his right hind having white to his hock.

[StayOutFront]

Here are a few more, Jorge:

Upset (1917, by Whisk Broom) - Gorgeous golden red stallion, three stockings

Golden Broom (1917, mentioned in previous note), wide blaze and stockings

Thunderer (ch.h., 1913, by Broomstick - Jersey Lightning) - two hind stockings up to the hock, can't tell about face marking

Star Hampton (ch.h., 1916, by Imp. Star Shoot - Imp. Dorothy Hampton) - four stockings and a medium blaze

Beautiful example - Mainmast (ch.h., 1918, by Superman - Masthead) - This flashy stallion has a blaze which widens at the bottom, extending to include his entire lip. He also has two high stockings in back, up to the hock (just above the hock on right hind).

Gnome (ch.h., 1916, by Whisk Broom II - Fairy Sprite) - four stockings, can't tell about face marking

Chanty (ch.h., 1922, by Pennant - Enchanting) - two socks, two stockings (they go up over the knee in front, to hock in back) and blaze

I realize most of these aren't wildly marked/flashy, but they have enough white that they might be of interest.

[Nessa]

If the Rosewood you speak of is the 1914 model by Magneto x Rose Tree II by Bona Vista. Her 1929 foal was Full Swing, a colt by Pennant.

[StayOutFront]

Hi Nessa,

That's the mare. Rosewood herself doesn't have much - if any - white. Her legs, at least, don't seem to, but her face is turned away in the photo. But that foal is flashy.

No surprise, I guess, about the Pennant angle. Quite a few of those Pennants were bright ones.

Thanks!

[Jorge]

Dear All,

Now we are talking! Great collection of names

Yes I am taking note on your valuable notes.

Just one point of clarification. In the case of the legs, please identify the extent of each white marked leg using the following letters (A-G) and numbers (1-4):

Front Legs (Rear Legs)

A. Hoof [1: left front leg] [2: right front leg] [3: rear left] [4: right rear]
B. Coronet " " " "
C. Pastern " " " "
D. Fetlock " " " "
E. Cannon " " " "
F. Knee(Hock) " " " "
G. Forearm (Gaskin) " " " "

Thanks again for your help.

Blessings,

[StayOutFront]

Just one point of clarification. In the case of the legs, please identify the extent of each white marked leg using the following letters (A-G) and numbers (1-4):

Front Legs (Rear Legs)

A. Hoof [1: left front leg] [2: right front leg] [3: rear left] [4: right rear]
B. Coronet " " " "
C. Pastern " " " "
D. Fetlock " " " "
E. Cannon " " " "
F. Knee(Hock) " " " "
G. Forearm (Gaskin) " " " "

I'm game. I hope I get the system right!

When I have time, I'll go back over the ones listed above. Here are a few 'new' ones:

Anna M. Humphrey (ch.m., 1920, by Peter Quince - Eden Hall) - She seems to have a fairly large blaze. Regarding legs, 4-E (right hind, stocking to just below hock)

Her 1930 foal, whose name is not listed, has a large blaze face and at least a stocking on left hind to just below hock (E-3)

Easter Stockings (ch.m., 1925, by Sir Barton - Irish Lassie) - Appears to have blaze face (not sure, photo is side shot). D-1, D-2, E-3, E-4

Enchanting (ch.m., 1925, by St. Victrix - Crinoline II) - Blaze face, F-1 (stocking goes to just below knee in front, a little higher in back), C-3. She might also have a few white hairs scattered throughout her coat - at least she seems to in the photo

Frizeur (ch.m., 1916, by Sweeper - Frizette) - Wide blaze face, might also have white hairs scattered through coat. Her 1930 foal, barely visible in photo, has at least one high stocking, extending up to the back of knee - F-1

Jorge, do you also have interest in European horses, or primarily U.S.?

[StayOutFront]

A horse who isn't exactly what you're seeking, but very beautiful, is Marriage (ch. g. 1936, by Strolling Player - War Wedding, by Man o' War). He was a gorgeous light chestnut, with a fairly wide blaze, and E-3.

His description in the 1943 American Race Horses: "When foaled, Marriage was officially described as a 'rich red chestnut.' Since then, his color has changed very markedly, he becoming rather of a 'bleached blonde,' so light in hue that it was easy to pick him out in any field of horses, however large."[/i]

[Jorge]

Dear StayOutFront and collaborators,

Thank you very much for the very valuable sabino names. All the names are a great find. Some are from Pennant, who was a bonafide one as well as a good number from "the brooms". I sincerely appreciate it.

As per European names, absolutely, you can post them too.

As per the whole list, I was surprised with the following names:

1. SLY WINK
2. MRS TRUBBEL
3. POPO (son of Gossip Avenue)
4. ANNA M HUMPHREY
5. ENCHANTING
6. FRIZEUR and
7. MARRIAGE

As per the case of ROSEWOOD, I think corrections are needed with her progeny. Can't find her specific progeny.

Thanks again.

Blessings,