Who is the greatest producer of race horses?

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Eight Carat also produced 5 Group I winners in Australia

Postby Keith » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:24 pm

Eight Carat produced some top runners in Australia

Octagonal by Zabeel-Eight Carat by Pieces Of Eight winner of $5,803,660 and winner of the Australian Triple Crown, Horse of the Year in Australia in 1996 and 1997 Sire of Australian Horse of The Year Lonhro

Mouawad by Zabeel-Eight Carat by Pieces of Eight winner of 7 races in 8 starts, $775,456 VATC Futurity S.-Gr. I,STC George Ryder S.-Gr. 1, VRC Australian Guineas S.-Gr. I,etc.

Kaapstad by Sir Tristram-Eight Carat by Pieces Of Eight winner of $541,850 VRC Sires Produce S.- Gr. I,VRC Ascot Vale S.- Gr. II, etc.

Marquise by Gold And Ivory-Eight Carat by Pieces Of Eight winner of WRC Captain Cook S.-Gr. I dam of Australian Grade I winner Shower Of Roses

Diamond Lover by Sticks And Stones-Eight Carat by Pieces Of Eight winner of ARC Railway S.-Gr. I and dam of 2002 AJC Australian Derby winner Don Eduardo and the 2nd dam of Group I winners Viscount and Viking Ruler

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Postby Jorge » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:23 am

Years ago, when this topic was brought in, I remember connoisseurs mentioning the name of GREY FLIGHT (gray m 1945) due to the quantity and quality of the foals along with the importance of the races won.

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Postby tinners way » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:12 am

Glad to see that someone added Champs Elysees to Hasili. Also would add Viviana- two grade on winner millionaires Tates Creek, Sightseek

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Postby kerryman » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:35 am

Another good one was Irish Bird , dam of 3 classic winners in Assert (Irish & French Derbies), Bikala (French Derby) and Eurobird (Irish St Leger). Stan Cosgrave of Moyglare stud culled her for something like £16000, which wasn't his best ever decision:)

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Postby Jorge » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:31 pm

Daltawa is not the greatest but certainly she produced two immense horses:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/daltawa

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Great Mares

Postby Keith » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:57 pm

A Great mare
Marguerite by Celt-Fairy Ray by Radium dam of

1. Gallant Fox-Triple Crown winner and sire of Triple Crown winner Omaha
2. Fighting Fox-winner of Wood Memorial S.,Massachussetts H.,etc.
3. Petee-Wrack-winner of Travers S.,Metropolitan H., Suburban H., etc.
4. Foxbrough-winner of Middle Park S.(ENG)

She is definitely an elite mare.

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Re: Who is the greatest producer of race horses?

Postby Keith » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:31 pm

Mining my own being the dam of Mine That Bird and Dullahan is quite an accomplishment.

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Re: Who is the greatest producer of race horses?

Postby madelyn » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:56 am

If we are talking mares, what about Better Than Honor? Going back a bit a mare I truly admire is Battle Creek Girl.
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Re: Who is the greatest producer of race horses?

Postby jagger » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:35 am

I knew Better Than Honour would have to get some mention. Any other dams previously mentioned have back to back Belmont winners or Triple Crown series winners?

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Re: Who is the greatest producer of race horses?

Postby erhrdt3 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:12 am

Jorge, you will like this one, as I love her:

Shenanigans

Dam of RUFFIAN, Laughter, Buckfinder and BM of the year, 1975

She was a lovely GREY (Jorge) daughter of Native Dancer.. as was her daughter Laughter, a grey, who produced Private Terms. Shenanigans female line is still going long and strong.

But producing Ruffian, dark like her unfortunate fragile sire, Reviewer, a filly like no other, is enough.
We will NEVER see another Ruffian......

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Re: Who is the greatest producer of race horses?

Postby Sylvie Hebert » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:29 am

How about the Blue Hen mares ...Rough Shod,mumtaz mahal,....
The sport and industry survive not only because of the champions that are remembered forever but also because of the losers that are so easy to forget...

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Re: Who is the greatest producer of race horses?

Postby Shawklit Won » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:15 pm

I don't know that Almahoud would qualify here, but she produced a couple of great broodmares in Natalma and Cosmah.

Natalma is the dam of Derby and Preakness winner, Northern Dancer, arguably the greatest sire of all time.

Cosmah is the dam of Halo, a great sire in his own right.
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Re: Who is the greatest producer of race horses?

Postby Keith » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:50 pm

1. Kitten's First dam of Kitten's Joy , Precious Kitten, and Justenuffheart who is the dam of Dreaming of Anna
2. Vertigineux-dam of Zenyatta and Balance
3. Set Them Free-dam of Giacomo and Tiago
4. Dear Birdie dam of Birdstone and Bird Town
5. Better Than Honour dam of Rags to Riches, Jazil, Man of Iron, and Casino Drive
6. Oatsee dam of Shackleford and Lady Joane
7. Lady Shirl dam of Shakespeare, Perfect Shirl, and Lady Shakespeare
8. Sweet Life dam of Sweet Catomine and Life Is Sweet
Not in any specific order but all great mares

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Re: Who is the greatest producer of race horses?

Postby Keith » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:13 pm

Kind by Danehill-Rainbow Lake by Rainbow Quest half sister to champion Powerscourt and the dam of champion Frankel and recent group 1 winner Noble Mission who won the Tattersalls Gold Cup.

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Re: Who is the greatest producer of race horses?

Postby Jeff » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:48 pm

South Ocean, dam of Storm Bird.