TEDO (Ger)(gray colt 2002) -- Interesting pedigree and racing in the US.
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louis finochio
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Willow O Wisp pedigree is an example of what inbreeding or linebreeding will do in a TB that inherits the dominant traits of his ancestors.
The downside of this line-breeding is while one TB inherits those dominate genes from these types of matings many will not.
This is what keeps TB breeders awake at night, by planning those matings in their dreams.
The downside of this line-breeding is while one TB inherits those dominate genes from these types of matings many will not.
This is what keeps TB breeders awake at night, by planning those matings in their dreams.
Those without sin cast the first stone.
Louis Finochio
Louis Finochio
This sure is risky buisiness.
Long time ago I have been trying this with a warmblood (halfbred), it
turns out in a complete disaster. A very bad tempered, 17.2 hands gelding
was the result. Savaging all horses in his neigbourhood when he was in pasture as a yearling.
A girl bought him for keeping him at the backyard with her parents, and for keeping the pasture (grass) short for the price of a slaughter horse
Haven,t heard anything from him (gelding) again. It was a result, of a worldchampion showjumping mating with an mare that was in the olympic
team, they were family inherated, through the sirelines. The grandsire of the mare was also the sire from the sire. He couldn,t jump at all, even less than a cow.
Long time ago I have been trying this with a warmblood (halfbred), it
turns out in a complete disaster. A very bad tempered, 17.2 hands gelding
was the result. Savaging all horses in his neigbourhood when he was in pasture as a yearling.
A girl bought him for keeping him at the backyard with her parents, and for keeping the pasture (grass) short for the price of a slaughter horse
Haven,t heard anything from him (gelding) again. It was a result, of a worldchampion showjumping mating with an mare that was in the olympic
team, they were family inherated, through the sirelines. The grandsire of the mare was also the sire from the sire. He couldn,t jump at all, even less than a cow.
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louis finochio
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Anytime you have a stallion that is line-bred to a different sire line than the mares sire line you can bring back the hybrid vigor and soundness in the offspring.
The only downside is a breeder doesnt know how those two sire lines will cross to produce a superior or inferior nick or bloodline afinity.
If the cross produces superior runners then you can go back to the well to continue that cross.
If the cross doesnt produces superior runners then you would abandon those matings and seek a different sire line in hope it would produce superior runners.
The only downside is a breeder doesnt know how those two sire lines will cross to produce a superior or inferior nick or bloodline afinity.
If the cross produces superior runners then you can go back to the well to continue that cross.
If the cross doesnt produces superior runners then you would abandon those matings and seek a different sire line in hope it would produce superior runners.
Those without sin cast the first stone.
Louis Finochio
Louis Finochio
Louis
What about line-breeding dam lines?
I know it's easer to line-breed or in-breed sire limes but seems to me that dam lines are as important, maybe more important than sire lines. I'd certainly be impressed with a stallion or mare with Toussaud, Somethingroyal & Grey Flight on both the top and bottom.
of course it may be hard to find a good mare or stallion for an outcross.
griff
What about line-breeding dam lines?
I know it's easer to line-breed or in-breed sire limes but seems to me that dam lines are as important, maybe more important than sire lines. I'd certainly be impressed with a stallion or mare with Toussaud, Somethingroyal & Grey Flight on both the top and bottom.
of course it may be hard to find a good mare or stallion for an outcross.
griff
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Jorge wrote:Hey, what about TEDO, who was the first entire horse to arrive first at the finish line?
Weeeellllll.....
Tedo is bred on the same "idea" as Mizzen Mast and Alphabet Soup. I hesitate to use "cross" in this case, as the cross is not the same--but the Grey Sovereign crossed with Ribot and Princequillo is the same. Furthermore, Ribotprince's damsire Hill Prince is a 3/4 brother to Cozzene's damsire Prince John. There are some other similarities, but I am a bit too lazy to look them up right now.
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@Jorge
His sire Sternkonig is a stayer, (but with tremendous speed).
I can't imagine, Tedo will really have a chance in your country.
Most of the progeny of Sternkonig is successfull over 10f and longer.
He had a derby winner in his frist crop (44 foals), who also sired a group 1 winner with his first crop (15 foals, Italian Oaks, 11f).
An other successful son was second in the Canadian International (12f) last year. This year, he sired the runner-up in the German Oaks (11f).
By the way, he is a grey!
On the female side Tedo is also quite stamina loaded.
His sire Sternkonig is a stayer, (but with tremendous speed).
I can't imagine, Tedo will really have a chance in your country.
Most of the progeny of Sternkonig is successfull over 10f and longer.
He had a derby winner in his frist crop (44 foals), who also sired a group 1 winner with his first crop (15 foals, Italian Oaks, 11f).
An other successful son was second in the Canadian International (12f) last year. This year, he sired the runner-up in the German Oaks (11f).
By the way, he is a grey!
On the female side Tedo is also quite stamina loaded.