GODOLPHIN TO WEED THEIR GARDEN

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GODOLPHIN TO WEED THEIR GARDEN

Postby louis finochio » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:34 pm

Goldolphin will cut down on their non producing bloodstock. Their plans call to weed out those individuals that have been firing blanks in the breeding shed.

From 500 TB currently Gololphin plans to cut down between 350-300 in 06. Next year they plan on cutting back to 250.

Godolphin was to retain quality not quanity, as this is a step in that direction.
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Postby summerhorse » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:17 pm

I wouldn't mind some weed picking time in that garden! LOL I suspect their idea of non producers is a bit more restrictive than mine would be! :D
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Re: GODOLPHIN TO WEED THEIR GARDEN

Postby Tairaterces » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:37 pm

louis finochio wrote:Goldolphin will cut down on their non producing bloodstock. Their plans call to weed out those individuals that have been firing blanks in the breeding shed.

From 500 TB currently Gololphin plans to cut down between 350-300 in 06. Next year they plan on cutting back to 250.

Godolphin was to retain quality not quanity, as this is a step in that direction.


Hi Louis,

Can you please provide link to this information . . . . .

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Postby Bedouwia » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:49 am

As the old saying goes, "One man's trash is another man's treasure." I suspect that they could have one heck of a disposal sale! Please keep us informed.

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Postby madelyn » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:26 am

Well according to that link, Goldolphin have already shed their 100, by not purchasing. Not much news there....
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Postby summerhorse » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:49 pm

That makes sense, why buy more when you have 500 of the world's best blood already?! But dang that woiuld have made for one HECK of a garage sale... :D
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Postby louis finochio » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:05 pm

When you can purchase the best of the best, you will have to breed them and those that produce the goods will stay, and those that dont must be culled out.

A TB breeder must continue to cull his inferior bloodstock, and purchase replacements to improve his bloodstock.

When a home breeder breeds all his mares to his home stallion and his stallion is a flop in the breeding shed, to many mares were bred to the same stallion before the stallion was a proven commodity.

I have seen many TB breeders make this mistake of putting all their eggs in the same basket.
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Postby Heidilady » Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:25 pm

louis finochio wrote:When you can purchase the best of the best, you will have to breed them and those that produce the goods will stay, and those that dont must be culled out.

A TB breeder must continue to cull his inferior bloodstock, and purchase replacements to improve his bloodstock.

When a home breeder breeds all his mares to his home stallion and his stallion is a flop in the breeding shed, to many mares were bred to the same stallion before the stallion was a proven commodity.

I have seen many TB breeders make this mistake of putting all their eggs in the same basket.


I can agree with these ideas but it always concerns me what to do with the stock one "culls." The obligation I mean. The solution, in part, to easing the burden of that obligation is to breed fewer foals, period, from each stallion. There can't possibly be 200 elite mares all trying to get to your stallion. I figure cut it down to the 30-40 premium and then pad a little with 10-20 mares beyond that. Plus expecting 100% mares bred to be in foal is optimistic. How many mares would you expect to breed to to get 50ish in your foal crop? See I know people go 'oh it's not good business' but the way I figure, if the stallion's really that good, you can charge more cuz the demand will be there for the fewer slots (you can use PR to your advantage too by billing them as particularly hard to get and they eat prestige up with a spoon if you tell'em they can't have something without paying through the nose) and if the stallion's mediocre, well you'll be doing the breed a favor by not pumping the market full of these horses that you can't possibly support. I figure we have a duty, if we are willing to breed them for our benefit, to be able to handle what we churn out as an industry. If we can't support 30,000+ foals a year, don't breed so darn many. If there are fewer foals being bred for slightly more money (to offset the $$ you'd make for more foals) horses wouldn't be bred if the risk was too great that they wouldn't make this higher stud fee back because either the mare wasn't that good or the stallion wasn't that good. It's quality control really.
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Postby madelyn » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:59 pm

Heidilady wrote:I can agree with these ideas but it always concerns me what to do with the stock one "culls." The obligation I mean. The solution, in part, to easing the burden of that obligation is to breed fewer foals, period, from each stallion. There can't possibly be 200 elite mares all trying to get to your stallion. I figure cut it down to the 30-40 premium and then pad a little with 10-20 mares beyond that. Plus expecting 100% mares bred to be in foal is optimistic. How many mares would you expect to breed to to get 50ish in your foal crop? See I know people go 'oh it's not good business' but the way I figure, if the stallion's really that good, you can charge more cuz the demand will be there for the fewer slots (you can use PR to your advantage too by billing them as particularly hard to get and they eat prestige up with a spoon if you tell'em they can't have something without paying through the nose) and if the stallion's mediocre, well you'll be doing the breed a favor by not pumping the market full of these horses that you can't possibly support. I figure we have a duty, if we are willing to breed them for our benefit, to be able to handle what we churn out as an industry. If we can't support 30,000+ foals a year, don't breed so darn many. If there are fewer foals being bred for slightly more money (to offset the $$ you'd make for more foals) horses wouldn't be bred if the risk was too great that they wouldn't make this higher stud fee back because either the mare wasn't that good or the stallion wasn't that good. It's quality control really.


You got that SO RIGHT--my stallion may only have thirty-four mares this year but they will be RIGHT mares and he won't have 168 junk babies by lesser mares. I am a very strong believer in quality over quantity.
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Postby BenB » Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:20 am

Maybe, I like to shop a little bit, in that horsewarehouse.
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Postby a l muir » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:40 am

A proper operation should cull on a regular and informed basis. Take at look at the operations run by Coolmore, the Aga Khan and Juddmonte as prime examples. This should have been considered years ago. IMO the abilities of the horses bred by Godolphin and their associates, in relation to the stock available has been lamentable. While there at it they may also want to cull an number of their "advisors"

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Postby louis finochio » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:44 am

When those people in high places dont look over the shoulder of their advisors, and those advisors consistently strike out, its time for a change.
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