Alydars for H/J

Whitehedge Farm · Postby **Whitehedge Farm** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:21 am

Do Alydars have any reputation for jumping ability? Other traits?

LaTroienne · Postby **LaTroienne** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:25 am

They're good racehorses often - not always the best sires.

Cathy D · Postby **Cathy D** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:41 am

Native Dancers in general are very good jumpers. I know of one from the Alydar line that a friend had for sale, and he was a superb jumper. He was by Talinium, a big, good looking, good moving, and a very good jumper. He was taken to the Florida circuit over the winter, and cleaned up in the hunters. He was subsequently resold for a very nice price.

This horse was an OTTB that was reschooled for the show ring very successfully. He was a MSW and allowance winner that showed good speed at the track, but was a real bad bleeder. His temperament was fine.

camohn · Postby **camohn** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:23 am

Aldydars top the jumper ranks. Alydark is one of the top jumper sires. Alybenbo is siring eventers. Also for jumpers: Crossed Swords.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/aly+dark
http://www.pedigreequery.com/alybenbo
http://www.pedigreequery.com/crossed+swords
He is no longer there but Easy GOer was on the top jumper sire list for a while as well.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/easy+goer

FWIW:
the rest of the top jumper sire field (in order of rank) for TBs:
Talent Town
Julio Marnier
Whitey II
Weshaam
Rahy
Cocky Golfer
Mc Million
Agile Shoebill
Guilty Conscience
Noble Roi
Our Diplomat
Lu Chano
Good News Joe
Truckin Kinda Guy
Polynesian Flyer
Fern Dancer
Major Impact
Morgans Charger
Advocator
Laudanum
Navajo Trail
French Condor
Far Out East
See Me Come En
Geri
Amber white
Carnivalay
Dark Hyacinth
Cabrini Green
One For A.B.
Flying Pidgeon
Relaunch
Northern SOund
Rafiki
Codebreaker
Real Courage
Air Forbes Won
Sevastopol
Joanies Chief
Squadron Leader
Appollonios

skeenan · Postby **skeenan** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:15 pm

That's pretty cool info... is that available online somewhere?

And where are some of these stallions standing? I couldn't find any info at all on some of them...

camohn · Postby **camohn** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:33 pm

jumpers:
http://www.usef.org/content/pointsAward ... Cat=Jumper
hunters:
http://www.usef.org/content/pointsAward ... Cat=Hunter
Interestingly there is very little overlap between the hunter and jumper sire lists. Julio Marnier, Air Forbes Won, Northern Sound and Absolut are the only sires on both lists. For the non hunter jumper folks the hunters are judges on style and the jumpers on scope. I guess there is a short list where you can get both :lol:

skeenan · Postby **skeenan** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:37 pm

Geez... that was quick! :shock:

Thanks a bunch!

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Of course.... DUH!!!
I have this list somewhere... :roll:

But you've done the hard work of weeding out the TB-only list, so thanks!

camohn · Postby **camohn** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:25 pm

Alydark I think is one the west coast somewhere in CA. Alybenbo is in OR. Many I dunno.Probably old or dead. A few of them are fairly well known race sires, but not most of them. See Me Come En was is OH but for some reason I think they moved to KY. Flying Pidgeon is here in PA. I think Air Forbes Won is/was in KY. Julio Marnier: somewhere in Europe? I see he is WB approved and I know he is not here! Rahy: at a 75K fee I don't think the jumper folks are beating it to his door! :lol:

. Our Diplomat is in SC. Weshaam is in WV. Anything I could find on Cocky Golfer were offsping in NZ so I guess he is Down Under? Agile Shoebill: OK.

Tap The Mint · Postby **Tap The Mint** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:47 pm

Turkoman, son of Alydar stands in CA. I have a son, Turkancer and a grand-son, Turkowar standing. Turkoman is on the North American leading sires of Steeple Chasers standing in ninth position last time I looked. His son, Turkancer is a huge black stallion that has sired some exceptional foals, one of them, Cisco Kid is quite the jumper.