belmont

walaa · Postby **walaa** » Tue May 26, 2009 7:17 pm

havent heard any thoughts yet on the belmont, whats evryone think? Im sticking with mine that bird and one of my 6 picks for the derby summer bird.

if a three-year-old is not able to go at least six furlongs, he ought to be put before the plough or between the shafts of a market wagon

walaa · Postby **walaa** » Tue May 26, 2009 7:19 pm

sorry, havent figured out how to post the quotes correctly, that was by E. J. lucky Baldwin

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Tue May 26, 2009 7:21 pm

Rachel Rachael Rachael

I'd take a long hard look at charitable man however. he has done nothing wrong besides run like crap on poly

karenkarenn · Postby **karenkarenn** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:22 pm

I love MTB but watch out for whatever Nick Zito has.

Tairaterces · Postby **Tairaterces** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:09 pm

Mr. Hot Stuff.

Twingirl · Postby **Twingirl** » Wed May 27, 2009 12:01 am

Tairaterces wrote:Mr. Hot Stuff.

I'm in love with this horse's breeding. Problem is, not much experience and not much on dirt. Played him in the Derby. IF he ran to his breeding, it would be all over, just like the other Tiznow did last year.

Lemon Drop Kid (Charitable Man) not too shabby either. Hope I'm not the only one not COUNTING on RA or MTB to win the BM.

History is against them, actually.

There's a video on YouTube of Tiznow, just playing around int he barn, and Mr. Hot STuff has some many of the same mannerisms.....and same kind of mischievous personality.

Roar · Postby **Roar** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:06 pm

Please be advide: If RA win the Bm Stakes means she is triple crown winner or just the winner of KEN, OAKS, PREAKNESS AND BELMONT
Thank

***** :roll:

*****

wangkw · Postby **wangkw** » Thu May 28, 2009 4:07 am

wangkw · Postby **wangkw** » Thu May 28, 2009 4:19 am

Surely not....in fact....rather ironically..to win all these 3 races you mentioned are much tougher than to score the official triple tiara
designed for 3yo fillies only...on the other hand any of the triple crown races is crowded with strong 3 yo male contenders. There was
only a few success story of fillies in these races.

RA's win in The Preakness has already raised so many eyebrows.....The Belmont Stakes will push this durability test even further...The
toughness of this title is not just competitiveness. All 3 legs are run almost within a month starting early May, with Derby the 1st leg
(not the case in some other racing nations).

Without winning Derby, best this girl can achieve is the so called mixed triple crown..which is of course off balance sheet..let alone
the fat bonus.

:lol:

steward · Postby **steward** » Fri May 29, 2009 5:36 am

The Belmont? Like in any year where the TC has been eliminated from the discussion, it is a curious oddity like a 6th toe. The race doesn't have that much impact on anything anymore, other than the TC. For any outsiders drawn to the dramas of the KD and the Preakness, if they are still paying attention at all, they are getting a feel for the meaninglessness of the old appendage.

wangkw · Postby **wangkw** » Fri May 29, 2009 6:01 am

Odd it maybe..only a few hopefuls can get through it anyway..so its name is better known because of its length..that much I think is right.

Ces TC things la are revered everyway..in UK, in Canada, in Latino areas, more so in Japan...why does it become an "appendage" ? That
only means one thing...it stands tall..Wilf said it right..you need something beyond being right..something freaky.

You are challenging NYRA wisdom..to give away 5 million dollars for any horse with the 6th toe.

:lol:

Toccet02 · Postby **Toccet02** » Fri May 29, 2009 8:18 am

steward wrote:The Belmont? Like in any year where the TC has been eliminated from the discussion, it is a curious oddity like a 6th toe. The race doesn't have that much impact on anything anymore, other than the TC. For any outsiders drawn to the dramas of the KD and the Preakness, if they are still paying attention at all, they are getting a feel for the meaninglessness of the old appendage.

I disagree. For me, not having a TC winner is usually a disappointment, but not this year with the fabulous Preakness race. Always, the Belmont is still a champ's race at the rare 1.5 miles, and at the relatively short rest period between races, and another chance to see some TC contenders face off against each other.
In fact my sister, a brand-new race fan, is changing all of her apartment selling/moving plans to be around to see the Belmont on TV, regardless of whether or not RA runs.

oliverstoned · Postby **oliverstoned** » Fri May 29, 2009 9:26 am

6th toe? funny but not true for me of all US races I want to win the Ky Derby then tied for second Preakness, Belmont, and BC Classic.

steward · Postby **steward** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:56 am

The Belmont has boiled down to whether MTB is stout enough to handle a third tough race. But so what, it will never put him in the pantheon of greats. Essentially, it's a question that doesn't need asking.

Maybe the ownership needs the purse, or figures that they must strike while the iron is hot. Personally, I'd give MTB the benefit of the doubt and groom him for better things, and even be thinking about 2-3 more peak years. They are risking the future by sending out a somewhat vulnerable horse on Saturday and for what? The ability to say that, with racing luck, he would have been the 12th TC winner?

Jess Jackson stepped in to squat on that option.

steward · Postby **steward** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:05 am

Let me put this a different way. What if Jackson had waited, given RA five weeks instead of two, and sent her at MTB (with 2 legs under his belt). Imagine the buzz this week instead of 3 weeks ago? Multiple story lines. The Belmont would be the hottest ticket going, and Rachel Alexandra wouldn't be on the shelf.

Instead, there is a hohum affair with the general public tuning out. Did the Preakness require her presence to attract attention?? The Preakness always generates interest if the KD winner enters the gate.

What a waste.