In lieu of the Travers Dead Heat I have a question

[bdw0617]

I was watching HRTV when I saw the travers and of course the horse racing historian john white is quick to point out that it's the first dead heat since 1874.

and I got to thinking and I think this is a question that I have always wanted to ask, like, seriously, how did they know that back then? I mean this might seem like a stupid question but I mean, like how did they determine dead heats and stuff back 120 years ago? i would imagine that there were a lot more of them then then now and a lot of races that if you went back and reviewed would have a definite answer'

I mean i don't need a history lesson on the camera i know it was in wide circulation by then, but what i mean is like, it's not just the ability to take pictures. the way it's setup now it is timed just to snap as soon as they hit the wire they couldn't' do that in 1874. and even if you could take a picture i'm not sure that in 1874 that the photo would have been produced in a timley manner enough to give a result

so i am assuming that is what the stewards where for so basically they had to eyeball dead heats back then?

[hpkingjr]

http://www.horseracegame.com/community/ ... ra-and-tec

I believe they use a digital system now that has 10,000 frames per second capability.

[wangkw]

bdw.....maybe human eyes were not as contaminated as they are today.

[TJ]

I was watching HRTV when I saw the travers and of course the horse racing historian john white is quick to point out that it's the first dead heat since 1874.

and I got to thinking and I think this is a question that I have always wanted to ask, like, seriously, how did they know that back then? I mean this might seem like a stupid question but I mean, like how did they determine dead heats and stuff back 120 years ago? i would imagine that there were a lot more of them then then now and a lot of races that if you went back and reviewed would have a definite answer'

I mean i don't need a history lesson on the camera i know it was in wide circulation by then, but what i mean is like, it's not just the ability to take pictures. the way it's setup now it is timed just to snap as soon as they hit the wire they couldn't' do that in 1874. and even if you could take a picture i'm not sure that in 1874 that the photo would have been produced in a timley manner enough to give a result

so i am assuming that is what the stewards where for so basically they had to eyeball dead heats back then?

Hi bdw,
The first Traver's dead heat in 1874 did not result in two Travers winners as was the case this year. Both dead heated horses were rested for a short time then sent out to race again (as was the case with most close finishes before the camera). The official winner of the 1874 Travers was Attila with Acrobat second. TJ

[bdw0617]

I was watching HRTV when I saw the travers and of course the horse racing historian john white is quick to point out that it's the first dead heat since 1874.

and I got to thinking and I think this is a question that I have always wanted to ask, like, seriously, how did they know that back then? I mean this might seem like a stupid question but I mean, like how did they determine dead heats and stuff back 120 years ago? i would imagine that there were a lot more of them then then now and a lot of races that if you went back and reviewed would have a definite answer'

I mean i don't need a history lesson on the camera i know it was in wide circulation by then, but what i mean is like, it's not just the ability to take pictures. the way it's setup now it is timed just to snap as soon as they hit the wire they couldn't' do that in 1874. and even if you could take a picture i'm not sure that in 1874 that the photo would have been produced in a timley manner enough to give a result

so i am assuming that is what the stewards where for so basically they had to eyeball dead heats back then?

Hi bdw,
The first Traver's dead heat in 1874 did not result in two Travers winners as was the case this year. Both dead heated horses were rested for a short time then sent out to race again (as was the case with most close finishes before the camera). The official winner of the 1874 Travers was Attila with Acrobat second. TJ

i'll be damned. why don't do they do this now.

[Laurierace]

Because you would have to wait four months to get both trainers to agree to a date.