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Postby Turn-To Fan » Mon May 04, 2009 3:17 pm

This is just priceless!

"On a more amusing note, here is a little lesson about how omens can be difficult to interpret. On the Thursday morning before the Derby, I was visiting Bob Baffert's barn where a bird pooped right on the face of Pioneerof the Nile's owner, Ahmed Zayat. This made Zayat really happy, and he thought it was good luck. In retrospect, it maybe was a sign that a bird - Mine That Bird - was going to poop on Pioneerof the Nile's Derby parade."

Here's the full article (It's on two Derby winners coming out of the Fasig-Tipton Oct sale):

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/hammerti ... ource.aspx

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Postby oliverstoned » Mon May 04, 2009 4:45 pm

Turn-To Fan wrote:This is just priceless!

"On a more amusing note, here is a little lesson about how omens can be difficult to interpret. On the Thursday morning before the Derby, I was visiting Bob Baffert's barn where a bird pooped right on the face of Pioneerof the Nile's owner, Ahmed Zayat. This made Zayat really happy, and he thought it was good luck. In retrospect, it maybe was a sign that a bird - Mine That Bird - was going to poop on Pioneerof the Nile's Derby parade."

Here's the full article (It's on two Derby winners coming out of the Fasig-Tipton Oct sale):

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/hammerti ... ource.aspx


Holy crap is that true? Too funny.

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Postby Twingirl » Mon May 04, 2009 9:42 pm

griff wrote:And his DI is 5.40

griff


It was the trifecta. The horses with the 3 highest dosage indexes came in, 1-2-3 (actually 1-3-2).

Had I thought of playing that angle, I'd have over $40K right now. :D

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Postby Vindicated » Tue May 05, 2009 7:14 am

Lucy wrote:
oliverstoned wrote: large pony a 12yo girl would ride at a 4H show. Mine that Bird is a 4x4 to another nice little horse Northern Dancer.


I had the same thought abut Mine That Bird in the post parade! "Aww, he'd make a sweet pony hunter."

I'm a dumbass. :wink:


Had the exact same thought in the post parade

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Postby wangkw » Tue May 05, 2009 8:49 am

It is merely a statistical finding.....it says, historically..all derby winners had DI of 4 or less, with very few exceptions.

It does not imply a horse which has a lower dosage index will have a higher chance to win, or, ..it does not rank
their winning chance according to DI (in ascending order)...all is said is the winner should rightfully belong to the
privilleged group.

Imagine..if you raise the treshold to 8 from 4..then you too can claim no horses have ever won derby with DI over 8.

DI nevertheless is good academic stuff. Correct me if you dont agree.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby bdw0617 » Tue May 05, 2009 8:58 am

wangkw wrote:It is merely a statistical finding.....it says, historically..all derby winners had DI of 4 or less, with very few exceptions.

It does not imply a horse which has a lower dosage index will have a higher chance to win, or, ..it does not rank
their winning chance according to DI (in ascending order)...all is said is the winner should rightfully belong to the
privilleged group.

Imagine..if you raise the treshold to 8 from 4..then you too can claim no horses have ever won derby with DI over 8.

DI nevertheless is good academic stuff. Correct me if you dont agree.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


I think mine that bird's dosage points out a flaw in dosage. how in the heck is a horse by birdstone out of a smart strike sire, NOT bred to love marathon races? Oh, it's becuase his sire and damsire aren't influentinal enough to get points.

Just becuase Birdstone is not Storm Cat yet, doesn't mean he didnt' have an influenence on this horse's pedigree.
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Postby wangkw » Tue May 05, 2009 9:15 am

Hi pal..didn't see you for a while.


You are right..flawed..Real Quiet had a massive DI too (5.29) and won Derby...in fact the shortest graded race he won was
8.5f...by definition..a high DI will arrive when the horse's dosage profile is tilted to the left towards the sprinter direction.

Wonder anyone will theorise Derby on horses' 8 characters of birth in future..that will enrich literiture.

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Postby Aug27 » Wed May 06, 2009 5:23 am

Unless I'm mistaken, this was the first Birdstone progeny to run in the money (1-2-3) in a stakes race on an off track ...

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Postby wangkw » Wed May 06, 2009 6:06 am

I understand off-track betting which is actually kind of over the counter equiv and bettors wager with deal makers (bookies),

as to off-track racing..I can't imagine what is it about ? anyone ?
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Postby Aug27 » Wed May 06, 2009 6:44 am

"off track" as in not fast dirt (think "sloppy" or "muddy")

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Postby wangkw » Wed May 06, 2009 6:47 am

Thank..thank..I was browsing thro wiki and found nothing...learned a term.
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