How much is race training in KY?

[geowarrior]

If Emily Post can tell me how to hold a fork

There's a right way to hold a fork? No wonder I've been stabbing myself all these years.[/quote]

[Desert Oasis Sporthorses]

Boy, this whole post has really gotten silly. Are we all adults out there? As I have mentioned before, there are those of us who look for places to go and find important information and it is really sad to see that so much space is taken up with something soooo silly that really has nothing to do with the original topic. CAPS or no caps? Does it really matter? How to hold a fork? I mean, really.

[griff]

and you just wasted my time by making me read your sage input


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[zinn21]

Ya know Shakespeare wrote a play about this thread called "Much Ado About Nothing"

[Vindicated]

I honestly read the whole thing....waiting for Phalaris' name to pop up...
Honest....

[Vindicated]

And to comment on the thread....
I think day rates are insane in some parts of the country. $50-60 I understand (or rather accept), but I swear I read a while back that SOME trainers command $150 and up per diem....that is insane-at that point you are just paying for "name brand"

[reedhill]

I agree with you. It almost sounds like if you don't spend 80 to 100 or above a day, your horses won't be able to run in a straight line or they will only trot out of the starting gate........LOL funny. Some trainers are proud to be able to do a great job and not have to steal from people to get it done. I'd expect they are the ones with the long waiting lists to get a stall. Then there are those that think, "if" I don't spend a fortune, the Jone's may not invite me to their function/party. I'd also think the "greats" in training started out doing it themselves or paying much less. But as long as owners pay 90+ a day, they'll still keep raking it in, can'y really blame them. Makes one wonder why anyone would want to ge to college these days, when a skill or job like this could be learned

[fletch621]

I pay $45/day and my record at Oaklawn this year was 8-3-1-1..... My trainer runs a small operation and likes to get his hands dirty. When you are paying $80 - $100 per day you are paying the trainers payroll, you aren't really paying for that trainer to train your horse unless it is a VERY highly regarded horse. That's what assistant trainers are for. I would ALWAYS think twice before putting a horse with the likes of these "super trainers".

[reedhill]

That makes a lot of sense!

[steward]

One of life's quandaries is how to politely tell a stranger that his fly is open. With some dudes, it's a no-win situation better avoided.

Some ebay auctions are so mish-mashed with colored fonts, caps, borders, and graphics that I give up on them. Invariably, hidden amongst the glow, is some detail that makes the deal not worth-while anyway.

[ireneinwa]

I pay $45/day and my record at Oaklawn this year was 8-3-1-1..... My trainer runs a small operation and likes to get his hands dirty. When you are paying $80 - $100 per day you are paying the trainers payroll, you aren't really paying for that trainer to train your horse unless it is a VERY highly regarded horse. That's what assistant trainers are for. I would ALWAYS think twice before putting a horse with the likes of these "super trainers".

I don't think you can find anyone in Ca for $45 a day..... maybe, maybe the fairs

Wish they'd lower the insurance so owners can get a break

[Vindicated]

You know that is a valid point-
Some states liablity/workman's comp is pretty steep...

While I still think paying more than $50 a day is asinine....we do have too remember how this money gets divided.....

There was another point I had, but I forgot...I may post if I remember, if when I remember I can figure out why I had forgotten it!!!!

[reedhill]

It sounds as though not just getting investors/groups interested in buying racing prospects and needing more owners is important, but needing more investors "backing up" new trainers to create more training options for race horse owners/groups.

I'm going to ask a question.........Are there enough good trainers in the USA that can train at fair rates, or would it be possible to invite an "up and coming" younger trainer from Australia, Japan, or abroad to "mix up" what is offered over here? Could international talent that offer competitive training rates make US trainers become "more aware" of what they are charging?

Maybe they have ways to decrease costs in other countries, where the trainers and sale buyers still make top dollar, but yearling buyers/owners that are "heading up" that paticualr prospect, aren't out a life savings to do so..........therefore having more currency flowing through all hands?

[Vindicated]

Honestly, I think that the US pretty much sets the stage for things like that...I am pretty sure I have heard from my friends that have been over in the UK that the "name" trainers command big prices, ect...
I would think we would have to ask our international counter parts what training rates are in there countries....
Personally, I think that if there were a huge need over here, someone (more people) would have jumped on it....there are plenty of ways to get work visas...its not rocket science...

[reedhill]

This is true. Comparing apples and oranges..........when Warmblood trainers started coming over to the US from Europe, the US riders flocked to them for their expertise in dressage and jumping. Some started out not making much, but as soon as their talents were recognized, they were booked up. The US has more resources (fast information, good land) possibly than other countries, but the wizdom from trainers from other countries might offer different angles we can use to our benefit? Stupid question here, don't growl at me.........but doesn't Japan and Arab countries have the richest races for TB's in the world? If not who does?