What the hell just happened?!
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valjoe wrote:anybody know the name of the genius that bought MTB out of Oct. Fasig Tipton. that's person needs some pub? Anybody going to Fasig Tipton Oct. 2009?
it's probably the same genius that got him geld...
He was a small, crooked, rank little bugger who sold for less than his stud fee. His Canadian owner/ trainer is a savvy business man who does well buying modestly priced horses, developing them, racing them, and selling them. Had he not gelded him, he didn't figure he would have won 3 stakes in a row in Canada as a two year old. He kept to his plan and profited immensely.
In further defense of the trainer, when the media was so busy trying to make him look like a hick, they asked if he was hoping to win. He remarked that he would be ecstatic to light the board. It is not like they bought this horse thinking they could go to the Derby. It just worked out and the connections knew that they might never have another chance.
The overhead is breathtaking. You could watch it over and over and still think he is not getting through that second hole. He is flying compared to the rest.
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Every once in awhile racing seeps into the popular culture in a positive way and this might be one of those times. I happened to be channel surfing the radio this morning and the DJ on KEarth was raving about the Kentucky Derby "You've got to see this! It's great!" and directing listeners to a clip on their website. When did KEarth or any other big radio station last feature racing?
You can't overestimate the value of that kind of positive publicity. Somehow I doubt that would have happened if Sheikh Mo or Winstar brought home the trophy. These are owners and a trainer that suits the times right now and average people can identify with them.
You can't overestimate the value of that kind of positive publicity. Somehow I doubt that would have happened if Sheikh Mo or Winstar brought home the trophy. These are owners and a trainer that suits the times right now and average people can identify with them.
Skipitgirl wrote:Ive seen 2 horse trailers cost more than his yearling purchase price LOL!!!
We've got one sitting in our barn yard that cost twice as much...and it was bare bones. Just wired with an A/C and heat strip.
That is one broke horse...mud hitting him, jockey able to move him around other horses. Threading between horses and rail. Nothing bothered him. One cool relaxed dude.
Would be nice if he were still a stallion, but then, he might not be the horse he is now.
Shame you can save 'em, lick 'em and stick 'em back on.
Laissez les bon temps rouller!
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Linda_d wrote:I thought the best line post-race was from Calvin, of course. Somebody was asking him how he got MTB through such a small hole, and Cal just smiled and said, "Well, he's a small horse --".
A little more levity: did anyone in the universe think (before the race) that MTB would win? Post race news conference:
Owner #1: well, yes, sure, I definitely thought he had a chance to win.
Owner #2: I was just in shock that he won.
(or, something to that effect.)
someone posted earlier:
[quote]but whats with the crabby trainer, had to have been on some nice pain meds for that ankle AND he just won the KY DERBY you would think he would have been a tad happier.
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I too had the immediate thought that he was a "tad curt" with the female commentator who intercepted him on his way through the crowd - on crutches no less - to the winner's circle. However when she followed up her first question about the horse having been driven to KY from New Mexico - like horses aren't vanned all over the country all the time - with that snarky: "Do you think you might fly home now?" I got where his attitude was coming from. I don't think he was in any pain - she was just being a smart-A** and he called her on it. What a condescending and insulting way to conduct an interview when she literally had the drop on everyone else in sportscasting: i.e. being able to ask the very first questions of this virtually unknown winning trainer Ky Derby when his equally unheralded horse has just won "from out of nowhere" at historic odds. After observing this amazing performance and she comes up with that load of c*r*a*p! She needs to be better prepared for the opportunities of her position instead of wearing such a ridiculous hat all day.
Any hesitancy I had about Chip Wooley was discounted moments later - he totally won me over when he then asked to speak so he could give kudos to the Canadian conditioner who had handled MTB earlier in his career. Later when being interviewed he spoke up about his Assistant Trainer's role in working with MTB while he was laid up b/c of his injuries in a motorcycle accident. That's actually very classy of him to share his day in the sun with two people who would otherwise be unknown.
And I might add that I didn't think the part owner with the bolo tie was drunk - I just took him to be a slower speaking westerner who suddenly found himself in a position he really hadn't expected to be in and wasn't quite prepared for. He answered every question put to him with real consideration and genuine thoughtfulness - as if he thought listeners to these interviews might actually want to know what he thought instead of tossing out quick sound bites of some silly but clever banter.
The whole team "Mine That Bird" was quite refreshing from my standpoint - and gives great bit of hope for and interest in our sport to the broader public. Let's hope the all powerful 'shapers of opinion' or leadership of TB racing don't feel compelled to make little of this 'euphoria' and simply 'Let It Ride' for however long this little horse may be successful. Everyone is actually enjoying racing for a change - which if given a chance can serve up a truly amazing story as it did this Saturday.
[quote]but whats with the crabby trainer, had to have been on some nice pain meds for that ankle AND he just won the KY DERBY you would think he would have been a tad happier.
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I too had the immediate thought that he was a "tad curt" with the female commentator who intercepted him on his way through the crowd - on crutches no less - to the winner's circle. However when she followed up her first question about the horse having been driven to KY from New Mexico - like horses aren't vanned all over the country all the time - with that snarky: "Do you think you might fly home now?" I got where his attitude was coming from. I don't think he was in any pain - she was just being a smart-A** and he called her on it. What a condescending and insulting way to conduct an interview when she literally had the drop on everyone else in sportscasting: i.e. being able to ask the very first questions of this virtually unknown winning trainer Ky Derby when his equally unheralded horse has just won "from out of nowhere" at historic odds. After observing this amazing performance and she comes up with that load of c*r*a*p! She needs to be better prepared for the opportunities of her position instead of wearing such a ridiculous hat all day.
Any hesitancy I had about Chip Wooley was discounted moments later - he totally won me over when he then asked to speak so he could give kudos to the Canadian conditioner who had handled MTB earlier in his career. Later when being interviewed he spoke up about his Assistant Trainer's role in working with MTB while he was laid up b/c of his injuries in a motorcycle accident. That's actually very classy of him to share his day in the sun with two people who would otherwise be unknown.
And I might add that I didn't think the part owner with the bolo tie was drunk - I just took him to be a slower speaking westerner who suddenly found himself in a position he really hadn't expected to be in and wasn't quite prepared for. He answered every question put to him with real consideration and genuine thoughtfulness - as if he thought listeners to these interviews might actually want to know what he thought instead of tossing out quick sound bites of some silly but clever banter.
The whole team "Mine That Bird" was quite refreshing from my standpoint - and gives great bit of hope for and interest in our sport to the broader public. Let's hope the all powerful 'shapers of opinion' or leadership of TB racing don't feel compelled to make little of this 'euphoria' and simply 'Let It Ride' for however long this little horse may be successful. Everyone is actually enjoying racing for a change - which if given a chance can serve up a truly amazing story as it did this Saturday.
I think this is the best Derby story since Funny Cide and the Sackatoga Stable (all the HS friends who went into the horse business together). The human interest angle -- especially the little guy/inexpensive little horse against the big guys with the big expensive horses -- always brings in new fans for a while.
To be fair, I didn't hear the "fly home" comment, and Chip Wooley did seem pretty choked up as he finished thanking the horse's former trainer, and his own assistant.
It's just that if you get to the biggest dance at all, you would think that you would marvel, and laugh at being pestered by the media. I mean, it's the Kentucky Derby, and you, of all people, made it there, against incredible odds. It's the Kentucky Derby, and you won it, for crying out loud. Compared to the usual super rich Derby set, you are a hick. Who cares? I love hicks. Look at Calvin. Who could be more genuine and fun, and probably proud to be a Cajun hick.
It's just that if you get to the biggest dance at all, you would think that you would marvel, and laugh at being pestered by the media. I mean, it's the Kentucky Derby, and you, of all people, made it there, against incredible odds. It's the Kentucky Derby, and you won it, for crying out loud. Compared to the usual super rich Derby set, you are a hick. Who cares? I love hicks. Look at Calvin. Who could be more genuine and fun, and probably proud to be a Cajun hick.