TALE OF EKATI

[bdw0617]

I don't think I've ever been this torn in my live over a horse.

On one had, my fav sire in the world outside of Plesant Tap, Sunday Silence is the dam sire. you can't have and we dont' have enough Sunday Silence here in america.

On the other hand... although I actually like Tale of the Cat, because Lion Heart is one of my fav horses of all time..........


what I find extremely interesting however, is that It might not be the whole Storm Cat / Rahy cross that was working so well... it could very well be the Storm Cat/ hail to Reason cross.

Sunday Silence is by Halo, who is by Hail to Reason

Tale Of Ekati's tail dam line, traces directly back to hail to Reason though Hail to Beauty

And of course, Rahy is a descendant o Hail to Reason, as Halo is his dam sire.


I just thought that was pretty interesting and worth posting

[Rokeby Forever]

There wouldn't be a sport if not for Hail To Reason. I must tell that to Maven three times a day. LOL!

[bdw0617]

speaking of, where is miss "high heels" anyway?

[Rokeby Forever]

Since this isn't the "Off The Wall" section, I'll simply assume that she's resting comfortably in Lexington right now.

[bdw0617]

getting back to the horse... I kinda dismissed him earlier.. i admit.. it was his name. it just doesn't scream "derby contender " to me. Kinda like Kodiak Cowboy doesn't.. although I actually had a reason not to like him with Posse on the top


But... Tale of the Cat has already proven he can sire a top class horse in Lion Heart, he passes on speed and Sunday Silence passes on Stamina as his avg winning foals distance is 8.7 furlongs..

he should be able (should) be able to race on both surfaces.

I don't think he's as Derby Bound as Majestic Warrior... but hey.. he should be a pretty good 3YO


And I don't' know why I never took Tale of the Cat Seriously as a sire, but you have to. He might, just might... be Storm CAt's best son at stud, with Serious consideration going to Giant's Causeway

[Rokeby Forever]

As a rule, Tale Of The Cats don't stretch out...they don't last very long, either.

[bdw0617]

In general, I don't think Storm Cat's are what you would call a source of stanima.

with that said... When crossed with a mare who has stanima and durability influence they make GREAT horses.. Saint Sunrise (Lion Heart's dam) had 78 freakin starts.

Spellbounder, who's damsire is Quiet American won the San Antonio which I think is like what.. a mile and an 8th?

anyway.. pretty darn good horse.

[Rokeby Forever]

with that said... When crossed with a mare who has stanima and durability influence they make GREAT horses

Storm Cat has ridden on a lot of coattails in his career.

[bdw0617]

let me hit on that race a little more.. It think that is the most important 2YO race of the year to date


The leproad will not stretch out.. nothing wrong with that.. all horses won't got 2 miles.. but what scares me about him is does he have that Sprinter classicesque speed. He was DONE at the 6F mark.


I LIKE Tale of Ekati, but i'm not in love with him. He got a Streeeet Sense Esque ride and barley won.

the most impressive horse in the race to me was Paint. He went wide the entire trip, was just getting really revved up at the 6F mark and didn't loose by a hell of alot. would have caught him at 7 and a half.


With 2 more months to go before we really see all the derby babies, I can kinda get an inkling of how it's shaping up... ONe of Bafferts horses, some how, some way, will stumble into the derby. I think Lukas will find a way to get Georgetown into the derby. Pletcher better figure out somethin... or have someone buy a horse and give it to him or some thin, because he doesn't have a damn thing that wants to go father than 6F right now that's on the track.

I think you will see more SoCal horses this year than last. Just a huntch.. I know that people hav ebeen waiting for the Oak Tree meet to let the 2YO's run.

But I think the story line is going to be the "resurgence" of Bill Mott. Majestic Warrior, barring some catastrophic injury, will be in the derby. He has 2 other horses that are damn good as well, and a Turf horse that if you listened to some people, is the odds on fav for the Juve Turf (I'm not one of thoose people)

But Nick Zito.. watch out. Glamor of pedigrees aside, might have the 2 best 2YO's in the country. War Pass is a freakin monster., and Zito is not running him into the ground.. he's looks like he's trying to get him to peak at the right time. But everytime he's ran he's looked 3 levels better than anything else on the track and he will stretch.

Also Paint looks GREAT.. and he has another, I forgot the name, that looks pretty good.. not as good as War pass. DAmn I love war pass. that's my Derby horse.

[Rokeby Forever]

But I think the story line is going to be the "resurgence" of Bill Mott. Majestic Warrior, barring some catastrophic injury, will be in the derby. He has 2 other horses that are damn good as well, and a Turf horse that if you listened to some people, is the odds on fav for the Juve Turf (I'm not one of thoose people)

The resurgence? When did Bill Mott ever fall off the radar screen? He's simply never had so many young dirt horses to work with.

I'm not convinced that Majestic Warrior is Mott's best. Mott never pushes his babies - he might have a few that broke their maidens that you won't hear about until they're in Florida. Down there - watch out!

[hpkingjr]

BDW and Roke:

Porter has an interesting article on the pedigree.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/NOW/News/TopNews/40917.aspx

[Rokeby Forever]

Hiya Hpkingjr! I remember reading this, but thanks for reminding me about it!

I really like the new Blood-Horse NOW supplement...it offers a lot of info.

[Easy Goer]

On TaleEkati's ride: I must disagree a little. I thought he made a significant big time move to win that. He was blocked and maybe even checked at the top of the lane and then found a narrow opening close to the rail and then drew clear. I thought it was a big time move.

If you disagree, Bdw, please feel free to educate me. From the posts I have read you are one hell of a race observer.
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I dont know when you joined this discussion board but please dont ever leave it. The Racing aspect of this board has been dormant for years until you and some others showed up.

[bdw0617]

you are right... you actually are he was blocked... but he still had the shortest possible distance from start to finish than anyone else

granted. it proved he's a "push button horse" but let's say he was forced to go 4 wide.. do you still think he wins? I d ont' know.


when I am watching races, it's usually to find a horse that's going to e at high odds in a claimer next out.. not to see if a horse is Grade 1 calibur or not. him going short or wide isn't going to determine that.

it was a ig time move however, you are right about that

[Easy Goer]

well...let's say he did go 4 wide. That is approx 40 ft. in distance. That is my best guess based upon looking at a few of those trackus projections (total distance traveled based on "chiclets" you see running across the screen) and comparing it to the race notes.

Okay say he loses 40 feet or basically 4 lengths going wide. Refresh me, I saw the race live and dont have the tape replay or the chart in front of me. How much did he win by??

Okay but wait a minute, how much time did he lose by getting blocked in the stretch? Let's say 1/2 sec. That's probably 3 1/2 lengths at top speed say 24 sec/quarter, less as they slow down. If they were moving fast at that pt. he could easily have lost 3 lengths just by getting blocked.

Oh and one other thing; did he ease him up at the finish. Again I dont have the tape or chart. If so he might have been able to get a little more out of him.

Dont get me wrong, Ive only seen Ekati once; and maybe Im biased cause I pounded that race and made my best score this year. But interested in what you think...