Purse Distribution & Jockey's Fees: A Whole New Approach

[Anthony10307]

The different ways the various tracks have distributed their purses has always been a fascinating subject to me for some reason - and as a result, I have come up with what I believe to be an innovative new method for doing both that and the related subject of determining jockeys' fees.


Division of Purses

2 Starters: 1st 70%, 2nd 30%

3 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 25%, 3rd 15%

4 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 21%, 3rd 12%, 4th 7%

5 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 20%, 3rd 10%, 4th 6%, 5th 4%

6 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 20%, 3rd 10%, 4th 5%, 5th 3%, 6th 2%

7 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 19.5%, 3rd 10%, 4th 5%, 5th 3%, 6th 1.5%, 7th 1%

8 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 19%, 3rd 10%, 4th 5%, 5th 2.6%, 6th 1.5%, 7th 1%, 8th 0.9%

9 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 19%, 3rd 10%, 4th 4.5%, 5th 2.3%, 6th 1.5%, 7th 1%, 8th 0.9%, 9th 0.8%

10 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 19%, 3rd 10%, 4th 4%, 5th 2.1%, 6th 1.5%, 7th 1%, 8th 0.9%, 9th 0.8%, 10th 0.7%

11 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 19%, 3rd 9.5%, 4th 4%, 5th 2%, 6th 1.5%, 7th 1%, 8th 0.9%, 9th 0.8%, 10th 0.7%, 11th 0.6%

12 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 19%, 3rd 9%, 4th 4%, 5th 2%, 6th 1.5%, 7th 1%, 8th 0.9%, 9th 0.8%, 10th 0.7%, 11th 0.6%, 12th 0.5%

13 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 18.5%, 3rd 9%, 4th 4%, 5th 2%, 6th 1.5%, 7th 1%, 8th 0.9%, 9th 0.8%, 10th 0.7%, 11th 0.6%, 12th 0.51%, 13th 0.49%

14 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 18%, 3rd 9%, 4th 4%, 5th 2%, 6th 1.5%, 7th 1%, 8th 0.9%, 9th 0.8%, 10th 0.7%, 11th 0.6%, 12th 0.52%, 13th 0.5%, 14th 0.48%

15 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 18%, 3rd 9%, 4th 3.5%, 5th 2%, 6th 1.5%, 7th 1%, 8th 0.9%, 9th 0.8%, 10th 0.7%, 11th 0.6%, 12th 0.53%, 13th 0.51%, 14th 0.49%, 15th 0.47%

16 Starters: 1st 60%, 2nd 18%, 3rd 9%, 4th 3%, 5th 2%, 6th 1.5%, 7th 1%, 8th 0.9%, 9th 0.8%, 10th 0.7%, 11th 0.6%, 12th 0.54%, 13th 0.52%, 14th 0.5%, 15th 0.48%, 16th 0.46%


Jockey Mount Fees

Purse $10,000-$14,999: 1st 10% of win purse, 2nd $100, 3rd $65, others $50 + $1 for each horse beaten

Purse $15,000-$19,999: 1st 10% of win purse, 2nd $150, 3rd $90, others $55 + $2 for each horse beaten

Purse $20,000-$24,999: 1st 10% of win purse, 2nd 5% of place purse, 3rd 5% of show purse, others $60 + $2 for each horse beaten

Purse $25,000-$49,999: 1st 10% of win purse, 2nd 5% of place purse, 3rd 5% of show purse, others $65 + $3 for each horse beaten

Purse $50,000-$99,999: 1st 10% of win purse, 2nd 5% of place purse, 3rd 5% of show purse, others $80 + $5 for each horse beaten

Purse $100,000 and up: 1st 10% of win purse, 2nd 5% of place purse, 3rd 5% of show purse, others $105 + $10 for each horse beaten or 2% of purse for that finishing position, whichever is greater


Your thoughts and questions, please ... I'm dying to hear them, pro or con.

[jainct]

I don't really see much of a difference from what it is now. This amounts to a few extra pennies for jocks if that much.

jainct

[Foggytrip]

Some of the rides I see the jockeys should be giving a rebate check back when they jump off

[Anthony10307]

Well notice that every finishing position means something, to both the owners and the jockeys.

Has this ever been tried before - at any track?

Among other things, this format might make stamina more valuable than speed, since longshot closers will usually beat a few horses to the wire while overmatched speed horses will often finish last.

For a good-sized stable, over a long-enough period of time, the differences in purse money earned could be significant.

[Archer]

Were you frightened by a paymaster when you were a small child?

I realize you put some time and effort into this suggestion so I'll be serious for a moment. Just a moment. Just 1.63% of a moment. OK. Sorry.

A couple of thoughts:

I don't think 10% is enough for third; I think 1% is too much for seventh. You finished seventh. You don't get a per cent. And I don't want the guy finishing ninth to get 80% of what the guy got for finishing seventh. Unless it's nothing in which case 80% seems fine.

I don't want the jock who is head-and-head for eighth riding him out to get an extra three dollars. If you need the three bucks, just ask me for it later. Don't make me grab the stick from you after the race and beat you to death with it. (I'm not too worried about this. I'm pretty sure $3 isn't going to get Desormeaux to ride one to the finish line.)

I'm sure it seems fair and your idea is to reward every little success, but it also seems unnecessary and overly complicated.

Now that Rebate For Bad Rides thing? . . . well, I could get behind that.

[Anthony10307]

And, even if unintendedly, this raises another issue:

Did you see the first race at Belmont yesterday?

The first horse to cross the wire - the #1 horse - was disqualified and placed second for drifting out and impeding the second horse, #3; yet about a 16th of a mile before that the #1 had ducked into the #6 horse (who finished fourth), causing the #2B horse (finished seventh) to clip heels and almost fall. But the #1 wasn't taken down all the way to 7th because the 2B finished several lengths behind the 5th horse, so the incident didn't cost the 2B a placing - not one that carried any purse value, anyway.

This is total BS. If a horse totally wipes out another horse (or as in this case, sets off a chain reaction that results in same), the horse should be DQ'd no matter what - and since in the scenario I've laid out every placing would mean something, that's how it would in fact turn out.

And 3rd money is 9% at the major Florida tracks, if the field had 11 or 12 starters; it was also 9% in last Saturday night's two NATC Futurity races at the Meadowlands.

[Foggytrip]

3k cant get desormeux to ride to the finish. I look for him to stand up on at least one this fall at Keeneland. What a bonehead