Roman Chapa Banned 5 years

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Roman Chapa Banned 5 years

Postby bdw0617 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:26 am

for the use of an electronic device.

kinda hits home because he races at oaklawn, my home track (for now). I thought he was just that good :cry:
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Postby Mac » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:05 am

Wow...five years. How does the racing commission or whoever catch these guys...do they get a tip or do they actually check the jockeys' whips or whatever?

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Postby bdw0617 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:09 am

at oaklawn, he literarly crossed the wire with it in his mo uth
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Postby Mac » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:00 am

"it" being what? The whip with an electronic something or other in it, or a completely separate device? Sorry, I am just not clear on this.

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Postby larrygene » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:41 am

The "it" is more commonly known as a "machine" which consist of 2 AA batteries taped together and wired together at one end with 2 metal points protruding that when touched to the skin creats quite a jolt of electricity. A jock usually has it strapped at their wrist under the silks and as their pumping their arms down the stretch they are hitting the horse on the neck. Never heard of a jockey putting one in their mouth to conceal. Most throw them away as they gallop out after the race.

The best example I can give is a "machine" is a minature taser. Just another way to keep from conditioning and using good horsemanship. I would hope that the 5 year ban Roman got will deter others from using one but I doubt it. :twisted:

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Postby majxmom » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:11 am

larrygene wrote:Most throw them away as they gallop out after the race.



I'll bet he remembered that guy getting caught by the ESPN camera on the gallop-out after the Arkansas Derby, and thought he'd put it in a safe place for later!
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Postby bdw0617 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:38 am

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Postby Tiz » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:12 am

I may be alone in this, but between the 2, I'd rather see the whip against the rules, and the machine legal. It's much less painful then getting lashed.

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Postby Scarem » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:41 pm

In the 70s, I was watching a race at S A. A rider fell off, and the ambulance was dispatched. The medic jumped out, took the riders wrist, and practically did a backflip when the charge was sent through him. Jock was OK, but got suspended for some months. Another time at the All American Futurity, the stewards did a search at the paddock, just before riders up. All but 2 had them. The track was forced to let them ride, it was the finals, and noone got days, but these guys sure got searched a lot for quite awhile after.

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Postby tinners way » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:00 pm

Tiz, you should experience the jolt before making that decision. I agree that the whip is also used abusively, but shock treatment is harsher.

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Postby Roger » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:00 am

The machine hit is kind of like walking into a hot wire fence, if you have a big charger the jolt is hard. Not all machines are equal. I wonder what races would look like without sticks? If you are a purest and believe that all races should won by the fastest horse who wants to win the most, we should get rid of jockeys and train the horses to run all by themselves. That would not work because after a few races the herd hiarchy (sp) would come into play. I guess we purest are just stuck in a imperfect world. I agree with Tiz.
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Postby adrienne » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:11 am

bdw0617 wrote:at oaklawn, he literarly crossed the wire with it in his mo uth


Ha... this made me laugh.

I can just see the stewards having the same conversation with him as I have with my dog...

"What do you have?"
"Mrhmmm"
"What is in your mouth?!"
"Mrhmm nnn nnn"
"DROP IT!"
"Nomm mmm"
"GIVE IT TO ME! DROP!"

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Postby Roger » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:23 am

Scarem, I don't think you can blame the paramedics response all on the machine. I'm 62 and just the other day, my response to a pretty little copperhead coiled on my front porch was much the same as the paramedic's response. Have you ever seen anyone walk into a hot wire, its not the jolt, its the surprise. I really had a good laugh at your post, thanks for sharing it.

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Postby Tiz » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:03 pm

Tinner, I have experienced it, and I don't like it. But I didn't have any welts or bruises from it. Also, I'm not suggesting something with cattle prod intensity. Adjust the jolt.

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Postby casallc » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:00 am

If Chapa had any sense he could've said he was a horse EMT and the device was a defibrelator just in case a horse had a heart attack on the track - he would be able to help. I think he could have worked it into an Eclipse award for a jockey showing such compassion.